Author Topic: why skimp on the breaks?  (Read 2833 times)

Offline k4ith

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 746
Re: why skimp on the breaks?
« Reply #10 on: 09 March 2008, 22:11 »
I took my ed30 down 1/4 mile then a mk2 Cupra and you can tell a diff straight away, so am going to get them with some braided hoses, could get the ate or such the like kits but the R32 will do the job fine
MKV Golf GTI Edition30, GIAC Pump&Race Map, AutoTech Fuel Pump, R32 Front Brakes, Dbilas Flo-master Intake, S3 Intercooler.ECS Dog Bone Insert.
MKII GTI 8v Tornado Red 88 - Das Projekt

Offline neg

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 927
Re: why skimp on the breaks?
« Reply #11 on: 09 March 2008, 22:13 »
The problem with the brakes on the Cupra was when it had Brembo's in pre-production, which is why when it was released they dropped the Brembo's.

Offline k4ith

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 746
Re: why skimp on the breaks?
« Reply #12 on: 09 March 2008, 22:25 »
Brembo's are back on, £1450 as an option with Seat.
MKV Golf GTI Edition30, GIAC Pump&Race Map, AutoTech Fuel Pump, R32 Front Brakes, Dbilas Flo-master Intake, S3 Intercooler.ECS Dog Bone Insert.
MKII GTI 8v Tornado Red 88 - Das Projekt

Offline neg

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 927
Re: why skimp on the breaks?
« Reply #13 on: 10 March 2008, 09:36 »
Really... sounds quite pricey.

Offline SteveS

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,338
  • GTI ED30
Re: why skimp on the breaks?
« Reply #14 on: 10 March 2008, 10:24 »
least they get the option!
SteveS

ED30: Carbonio Intake & Filter | Blueflame TBE | Ebach Sportlines | Neuspeed Torque Arm Insert | Forge DV | REVO Stage2 [353BHP/360lb/ft]

Offline RedRobin

  • Forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 4,227
  • BIALI Motorsport - Chief Horn Blower!
Re: why skimp on the breaks?
« Reply #15 on: 10 March 2008, 10:45 »
....£1,450 not so pricey when you consider the AP Racing Big Brake Kit is about £1,700 just for fronts - Worth it though!!

The standard GTI brakes are okay but the pedal response and feel doesn't compare to say the AP's, and neither does the stopping power - From any speed you care to be driving at!! It's not that the stock brakes aren't good but just that some of the alternatives are so much better. But it's all down to cost of course. :cool:
:cool: FACEFOOK: https://www.facebook.com/robin.procter.50?ref=tn_tnmn



Throbbin' Red VeeDub GTI Mk5 - DSG, Custom Milltek TBE, Forge Twintake, KW-V3 + Eibach ARBs, AP Racing BigBrake kit, Quaife ATB diff, Revo2

Offline kenny.s

  • Not said much yet
  • **
  • Posts: 93
Re: why skimp on the brakes?
« Reply #16 on: 10 March 2008, 11:13 »
In the 2 months i've owned my car i've found the limits of the standard brakes on more than one occasion  :shocked:
Before i bought the car i was aware of some of the complaints about the standard brakes but considering how good the rest of the car is i wasn't put off. Having now expericened it my self i would say it is the only real achilles heal the car has ( or at least that i've found so far) for me there is more than enough power, it's the lack of ability the brakes have to cope with sustained use which spoils the fun imho.
It is rather annoying considering it's a GTi and "spirited" B road use is supposed to be what it's good at but i appreciate that VW have to consider a lot of things when it comes to spec'ing a car and not everyone will find the need for big brakes but it would have been nice of them to at least offer it as an upgrade.
I originally intended to leave my car completely standard, bar the stereo, but i'm going to have to do something about the brakes.
When i've got the spare cash i'm pretty certain im going to go for the AP Brake Kit. As a stop gap i've got a set of Mintex 1155 pads to try and see if they make any noticable difference. I know a lot of it is probably to do with the design of the caliper and rubber hoses but the standard pads are cooked so they need changed anyway and i've got a good supplier of Mintex stuff  :wink:

Offline RedRobin

  • Forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 4,227
  • BIALI Motorsport - Chief Horn Blower!
Re: why skimp on the brakes?
« Reply #17 on: 10 March 2008, 11:41 »
In the 2 months i've owned my car i've found the limits of the standard brakes on more than one occasion  :shocked:


....At the time AP made their very generous offer to me, I felt I didn't need to upgrade the brakes, but then a few months later I also experienced a couple of 'moments' with the standard brakes and then decided to ask if their offer still stood. No regrets whatsoever - The AP's give great confidence.

When I first had them I found I was stopping waaaaaaaay too short before roundabouts etc - It was almost embarrassing!! I've yet to experience a skid since the AP's - They are very progressive (and don't tend to fade).
« Last Edit: 11 March 2008, 00:08 by RedRobin »
:cool: FACEFOOK: https://www.facebook.com/robin.procter.50?ref=tn_tnmn



Throbbin' Red VeeDub GTI Mk5 - DSG, Custom Milltek TBE, Forge Twintake, KW-V3 + Eibach ARBs, AP Racing BigBrake kit, Quaife ATB diff, Revo2

Offline CHRIS-M07GTI

  • Not said much yet
  • **
  • Posts: 77
Re: why skimp on the breaks?
« Reply #18 on: 10 March 2008, 23:38 »
My opinion on the brakes are:- fast blast and they start to fade and should be better,if you have been pottering about,ie quick blasts then time to cool,they are not to bad. I think that if you can afford it,and like Red Robin has mentioned about quality 4pot calipers,do it,but for me,try goodridge or Hel braided hoses,a decent set of fast road pads,and a change to quality Dot 4 brake fluid,you might be suprised and save yourself a few quid.
I travelled over fast roads to Aberdeen for 3 years in a 172 Cup and had the joy of having fun with the Squaddies returning back to Allendale army camp and that car was amazing,then i fitted all 3 mods mentioned as well as Mich Exalto 2's,and swear that car felt like it was on F***ing rails!!!!

Shop around,a few tools needed,and fit yourself,piece of p*ss.

P.s :- make sure you dont put copperslip/antisqueal paste on the meaty side of the pads,like i seen a young mechanic do once,or you will need a new front end!!!!! :laugh:

Chris.

Offline Hurdy

  • Serious forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 8,466
Re: why skimp on the breaks?
« Reply #19 on: 11 March 2008, 01:50 »
Guess what I'm getting now!!!!!

Tarox 10 pots :shocked: :laugh: :cool:

Got a good deal I couldn't turn down :wink:
Seat Leon Cupra Black 290 DSG