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Offline oggy

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Drive from cold
« on: 26 February 2008, 14:17 »
Not sure whether this is a fault of the car or whether it is a characteristic, but dependent on how the car - 16v - is driven from cold seems to affect the throttle response and the fuel consumption thereafter.

The basic observations are

If I plant the throttle a bit, more or less straight from cold, and take it to above 3500 rpm reasonably quickly, - but not thrash it, as I'm not that dumb - I seem to obtain about 4 mpg better and a better throttle respose, as if the car is runnning on the correct mixture ratio somehow, than I do if I start from cold and take it gently until the car is warmed up. These improvements last for the whole journey. The improvement never materializes if I do not start the car from cold in this manner.

I'm wondering whether this is a function of the auto choke - some cars you needed to preset the choke by pressing the gas pedal once before starting - or whether it is just a trait of fuel injected cars.

Any clues?

Thanks as always 

Offline Pete Taylor

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Re: Drive from cold
« Reply #1 on: 26 February 2008, 14:43 »
When the car is cold the fuel mixture is always increased until the engine has warmed up. The ECU monitors the coolant temperature from the ECU temp sensor on the right hand side of the block and adjusts the fuel injection accordingly

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Re: Drive from cold
« Reply #2 on: 26 February 2008, 14:45 »
Wierdly I'm sure I have the same thing with my MKII 8v. If a granny it from cold it seems a bit gutless for the rest of the journey. If I give it some restrained welly from the off it goes like the clappers!

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Re: Drive from cold
« Reply #3 on: 26 February 2008, 15:40 »
Oh my god ... Ive also noticed this!

Some times the car will fly and other times it seems restrictive for some silly reason?

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Re: Drive from cold
« Reply #4 on: 26 February 2008, 15:47 »
Yup, you should notice on cold mornings it goes like stink. The combo of extra fuel and dense cold air is what does it

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Re: Drive from cold
« Reply #5 on: 26 February 2008, 15:56 »
Yup, you should notice on cold mornings it goes like stink. The combo of extra fuel and dense cold air is what does it

You're missing the point fella.

1) A very cold morning and I granny drive it it stays feeling slugish for the rest of the journey.

2) A very cold morning and I give it some welly from cold and it goes much better for the rest of the journey than on grannying it like point 1.

Wierd!

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Re: Drive from cold
« Reply #6 on: 27 February 2008, 08:55 »
Glad I'm not paranoid and this seems to happen to others - It happened with my Golf Mk2 also. Apologies for being an utter cretin  - choke & fuel injection, I think not! & wistful thoughts back to carburettors, simple but they tended to work, - and of course the temp sensor provides the feedback to the control unit. I replaced this not so long ago from VW though. 

It does say in the manual to drive as normal straight from cold, but I like to feel the oil has had a chance to circulate before giving it some.



 

Offline Stu G

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Re: Drive from cold
« Reply #7 on: 27 February 2008, 10:40 »
in all honesty it depends what mood the car is in. somedays it feels like it can beat anything and other days it feels sluggish. not jsut on cold mornings but any time of the day