Author Topic: 16v or 8v  (Read 91061 times)

golfvr6

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #240 on: 26 April 2004, 22:06 »
Yeah and a 16v will do it in well under 8  ;)

Offline Zoid

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #241 on: 26 April 2004, 23:08 »
Vr6 I agree with you that the manual does show the 0-60 as 10.0 seconds, however I dispute this figure for the following reasons:

- The VW Brochure and Specifications listings for the 1990 range, list the 0-60 as 8.3 seconds.
- Nearly every other resource for information regarding the GTI I've come across, list's 0-60 times in the early 8's (I can dig some out if required).
- If you do the maths based purely on power to weight ratio (not even taking into account that torque to weight between the 8v & 16v is almost identical) the 0-60 should be lower.
- Many other owners will confirm 0-60 times of well under 10 seconds.
- And most importantly I have actually tried some 0-60 runs in the real world with a passenger recording time taken using a stop watch.

While I'm basing my argument on multiple sources, you however are only basing your opinion on one single piece of evidence, namely the owners manual which could be wrong, you even said yourself 'I don't dispute that it is faster than that'.
I'm not some kid (far from it unfortunately) who's blindly arguing that black is white, while I get the impression that even if I took you out in my standard Golf and proved it to you, you'd probably still wouldn't except it and instead try and say I'd made modifications that I haven't told you about....  ::)
« Last Edit: 26 April 2004, 23:10 by Zoid »

Veedubgt18v

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #242 on: 26 April 2004, 23:10 »
i cant believe this is still going on! you guys actually amaze me  ;D


golfvr6

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #243 on: 26 April 2004, 23:31 »
Vr6 I agree with you that the manual does show the 0-60 as 10.0 seconds, however I dispute this figure for the following reasons:

- The VW Brochure and Specifications listings for the 1990 range, list the 0-60 as 8.3 seconds.
- Nearly every other resource for information regarding the GTI I've come across, list's 0-60 times in the early 8's (I can dig some out if required).
- If you do the maths based purely on power to weight ratio (not even taking into account that torque to weight between the 8v & 16v is almost identical) the 0-60 should be lower.
- Many other owners will confirm 0-60 times of well under 10 seconds.
- And most importantly I have actually tried some 0-60 runs in the real world with a passenger recording time taken using a stop watch.

While I'm basing my argument on multiple sources, you however are only basing your opinion on one single piece of evidence, namely the owners manual which could be wrong, you even said yourself 'I don't dispute that it is faster than that'.
I'm not some kid (far from it unfortunately) who's blindly arguing that black is white, while I get the impression that even if I took you out in my standard Golf and proved it to you, you'd probably still wouldn't except it and instead try and say I'd made modifications that I haven't told you about....  ::)


Mate, i actually don't care.
I know that an 8v is quicker to 60 than 10 secs, well that it is quite obvious really.
I'm only winding you up  :D
The only reason i got involved in this argument in first place is i feel i have to tell people the truth about 8 and 16v's.
The truth being that the 8v is a nice motor but the 16v is much faster, deffo over a second faster to 60 probs a 1.5 seconds.
The constant myth that 8v owners circulate that the 8v engine has low down torque is simply not true.
Neither the 8 or 16v engines produce that much torque, the reason the 16v is fast is because it still produces a reasonable amount of torque at a high rev range, the 8v doesn't.
A naturally aspirated 1.8 engine will not produce much torque, not without mods.
Try a vr for low down torque!

Veedubgt18v

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #244 on: 26 April 2004, 23:34 »

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Mate, i actually don't care.


blatant lie  ;)

golfvr6

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #245 on: 26 April 2004, 23:35 »
Hehe  :D
I don't really care, i just love it when you 8v owners start biting.
10 secs  :D

Anyway i need something to do as Blacky isn't online tonight  :(

golfvr6

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #246 on: 26 April 2004, 23:36 »

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Mate, i actually don't care.


blatant lie  ;)

I don't tell lies mate...  ;)

Veedubgt18v

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #247 on: 26 April 2004, 23:38 »
i didnt mean that you actually lie! you do care really! go on admit it  ;)

Veedubgt18v

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #248 on: 26 April 2004, 23:39 »
besides a havent bitten! prob cos of tears of laughter means i cant see the keyboard! besides i helped you ridicule myself  ;D

Veedubgt18v

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #249 on: 26 April 2004, 23:41 »
lol! anyway bedtimne for me cos i got work at 6am. oh joy.  :-\