Author Topic: 16v or 8v  (Read 91063 times)

marcus123

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #110 on: 20 April 2004, 13:11 »
hahahhahahah ;D

all becoming a bit of a joke now!

why dont we all consider this point:

which is better, a modded 8v or 16v????

there is no alternative in this debate but to say that it is the 8v digi everytime.

straight from the specialist at c an r in nottingham.

for this reason alone im sticking with the 8valver every time! ;)

golfvr6

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #111 on: 20 April 2004, 14:04 »
Not true!
A 9A will go easily into a 16v, straight swap for the KR block, blow away any 8v, even with 2.0L.
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marcus123

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #112 on: 20 April 2004, 17:09 »
hahhahah,

tell me something vr6, do you have a vr6 or a 16valver?

r u still goin to tell me that it would beat an 8valver with a g60 conversion? :o

i dont  think so ;)

Offline Daz...

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #113 on: 20 April 2004, 17:20 »
16v's are quicker than 8v's end of story. Same basic car - more power.

As for the G60 that's totally different!!
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golfvr6

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #114 on: 20 April 2004, 17:30 »
hahhahah,

tell me something vr6, do you have a vr6 or a 16valver?

r u still goin to tell me that it would beat an 8valver with a g60 conversion? :o

i dont  think so ;)

No it won't if you put a supercharger or turbo on a 16v  ;)
Just face it mate 16v will always be better than 8v.
G60 16v limited  ;D
By the way i do actually own a vr6, i used to own a mk2 16v and a passat 16v. In good running order you would have to be on drugs not to notice the difference between a good 8 and 16v.
The best conversion to do on a 16v is the 9A block, not that expensive and get up to 200bhp with a decent head and cams.
I do like 8v, really i do  :D  
Just they don't make you brick yourself in the same way that a 16v or vr6 does  ;)

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #115 on: 20 April 2004, 17:34 »
I got my missus to film me go down the road in my 16v yesterday and it sounds and looks f*ckin' awesome. Oh, and I do remember bricking more than once getting used to driving it!!
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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #116 on: 20 April 2004, 23:56 »
To the person who said the 8v should no longer be called a hot hatch... i can tell you that i had an 8v that would do 0-60 close to 9 seconds with NO mods and i have beaten a few 16v's off the line(although i was caught up about 6 seconds later). 8v's still can cut it in this day and age!

cant imagine y any1 would want 1 over an 8v with the amount of money you save on insurance and buying the car

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #117 on: 21 April 2004, 06:55 »
ok, so we come to a conclusion:

16v is faster (high rev), but overall 8v is a better choice (much cheaper, around town is the same as 16v) :)

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #118 on: 21 April 2004, 09:10 »
Sorry for this Vr6 but i'll have to chip in here !!!  ;D

I'll be the first to admit that from a pure power point of view the 16v is much better almost 30bhp more plus the slightly taller gearing means great acceleration. Change for aftermarket suspension and there's no difference in handling, but the 16v does have the better brakes.

But posted elsewhere in here is some performance figures showing the torgue figures / peak power @ 'x' rpm from a VW catalogue. It shows the 16v to only have a few lb/ft of torque more at not much more rpm. So on the move, there's not gonna be a huge ammount in it. The same comparison can be made of petrol / turbo diesel engines.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=8269

Let's just accept there's subtle difference here and all enjoy owning a piece of hot hatch history as there's more to owing a Golf GTI than pure speed, if that was all that mattered we'd be driving something French after all !!!



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marcus123

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Re:16v or 8v
« Reply #119 on: 21 April 2004, 09:51 »
ok, so we come to a conclusion:

16v is faster (high rev), but overall 8v is a better choice (much cheaper, around town is the same as 16v) :)

beautifully summed up by boogey sheftel.
the 8valve is the better choice.
with taking modifications into account it is definately the better choice 8).
no doubt.
i dont dislike 16valvers at all by the way :P