ED30 std boost vs rpm profile ?

[john_o]

just fitted my DEFI boost guage , not been out for a run yet
but I'm interested to find out what the expected boost levels are?
Anyone got a VAGCOM plot for Ed30 boost ?

At idle my car pulled 22 in Hg , whats everyone else get?

JohnO

[john_o]

no replies? oh well.

On way to train station this a.m.

Vacuum
22 inHg idle
24 inHg in gear decel (surprised its so close to idle , on N/A cars this is normally very different to idle)

Boost
generates boost very quickly 
11 psi dropping to 10 higher up revs , seems pretty stable though.

[john_o]

Audi S3 is 1.2 bar = 17.4 psi for 265 hp
reckon APR must be up at 20 psi for ~300 bhp

[Peskarik]

Audi S3 is 1.2 bar = 17.4 psi for 265 hp
reckon APR must be up at 20 psi for ~300 bhp

wolfbane has Oettinger 330hp remap with a sports exhaust, and he told me his car produces 477Nm of torque, and boost is 1.55 bar at max.
I wonder how long turbo lasts. 

[Kiddfrost]

Not quite what you want but some info anyway, have done some logs...
Standard gti:Peaks at around 0.65 bar/9.4 psi
Revo'd gti: Peaks at around 1.4bar/20.3psi at aprox 3.2krpm,, problem is by the time your at 6.5k rpm its down to around 0.6bar/8.7psi
I bet Wolfbane's ed30's holding over 1 bar at 6.5krpm..

John_o, what's your boost at 6.5krpm?

[john_o]

any replies welcome thanks everyone.
 I have to say Im surprised I cant find any std ref graphs on the web.
Even looking for S3 (new shape) , Leon etc forums for cars that use same powerplant as the ED30

Plenty of std GTI logs on mkv's forum in america but they dont get the ED30

1.55 bar = 22.5 PSI ! Not sure what the K04 is rated to , but will find out.

Kiddfrost are you VAG-COMing then?

So far my ED30 peaks at  0.75 bar = 11 psi , I will check what it is at 6.5krpm tonight 

Interestingly it highlights what Ive always felt , that under some conditions the car does not deliver the full 11 psi on full throttle. Often backing off and re-applying it then delivers 11 !
Seen this in other cars where progressive application to full throttle rather than slamming pedal down achieves more accel!

lots more to follow, I have a benchmark for if /when my valve fails.
and of course an apr remap is soon to happen too...

JohnO

[Peskarik]

any replies welcome thanks everyone.
 I have to say Im surprised I cant find any std ref graphs on the web.
Even looking for S3 (new shape) , Leon etc forums for cars that use same powerplant as the ED30

Plenty of std GTI logs on mkv's forum in america but they dont get the ED30

1.55 bar = 22.5 PSI ! Not sure what the K04 is rated to , but will find out.

Kiddfrost are you VAG-COMing then?

So far my ED30 peaks at  0.75 bar = 11 psi , I will check what it is at 6.5krpm tonight 

Interestingly it highlights what Ive always felt , that under some conditions the car does not deliver the full 11 psi on full throttle. Often backing off and re-applying it then delivers 11 !
Seen this in other cars where progressive application to full throttle rather than slamming pedal down achieves more accel!

lots more to follow, I have a benchmark for if /when my valve fails.
and of course an apr remap is soon to happen too...

JohnO

John, put out all technical info here. Very interesting stuff!  THanks!

[Kiddfrost]

any replies welcome thanks everyone.
 I have to say Im surprised I cant find any std ref graphs on the web.
Even looking for S3 (new shape) , Leon etc forums for cars that use same powerplant as the ED30

Plenty of std GTI logs on mkv's forum in america but they dont get the ED30

1.55 bar = 22.5 PSI ! Not sure what the K04 is rated to , but will find out.

Kiddfrost are you VAG-COMing then?

So far my ED30 peaks at  0.75 bar = 11 psi , I will check what it is at 6.5krpm tonight 

Interestingly it highlights what Ive always felt , that under some conditions the car does not deliver the full 11 psi on full throttle. Often backing off and re-applying it then delivers 11 !
Seen this in other cars where progressive application to full throttle rather than slamming pedal down achieves more accel!

lots more to follow, I have a benchmark for if /when my valve fails.
and of course an apr remap is soon to happen too...

JohnO

Yes, am VagComin it, are you?
I know exactly what you mean about slamming and progressively applying the throttle. My theory is (bollox or not) when you slam the throttle down, the ecu pulls back on values more and corrects. When you apply progressively, values tend to keep within parameters, therefore little or no ecu pull back. More times than not, I get a higher peak boost and less retard on the timing when progressively applying the throttle.
I assume you’re talking about the diverter/cut off valve, mine failed after 8k miles of Revo abuse. I installed Revision G in there.. let’s see how long that lasts 
I’ve been doing some before and after data logging because I’ve tried a K&N panel filter. Results are disappointing at the moment as I get more measured airflow with the standard filter! It makes more induction roar and response feels slightly different but I can’t honestly say its better. I’ve still got some things to try before I make a decision on whether to return back to the standard filter.

Keep the info coming,, as Peskarik says, all interesting stuff,,, to some of us anyway 

[john_o]

John_o, what's your boost at 6.5krpm?

No VAG-COM as yet but I reckon its only a matter of time lol.

tonight i did several 3rd gear runs to 6.5 k rpm = approx 7.5 psi (0.5 bar)

even managed to get 12 psi peaks today when applying throttle at higher rpm rather than a long run from 2k upwards.
But the ambient temp was also much lower today

[Kiddfrost]

John_o, what's your boost at 6.5krpm?

No VAG-COM as yet but I reckon its only a matter of time lol.

tonight i did several 3rd gear runs to 6.5 k rpm = approx 7.5 psi (0.5 bar)

even managed to get 12 psi peaks today when applying throttle at higher rpm rather than a long run from 2k upwards.
But the ambient temp was also much lower today

Thanks for the info,
I suppose it all fits in with the power differences between the two at stock. The standard gti pushes about 0.3par/4.3psi at 6.5k rpm
I do all my runs in 3rd gear as well..... Quick, get it mapped and VC it...