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Offline DaveG

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1.8T Gti - buyers guide??
« on: 29 March 2004, 19:00 »
Hi all,

No doubt this sort of thing has asked a million times, but i'm after a list of things to look for with higher mileage 1.8 turbo's.

I'm new to golfs, but not to turbo's so know a thing or two, but am looking for model specific 'funnies'.

As i say, likely to be a 1999 model with approx 100,000 miles on the clock (other half is preggers so need to cut back on expenses - car being the first).  

Hyperlink to buyers guide or similar would be much appreciated.

I take it you guys endorse the higher mile cars with a fully stamped book etc?  Golfs are surely renowned for their long lifetime?

Cheers

Dave

Offline Rally_Chris

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Re:1.8T Gti - buyers guide??
« Reply #1 on: 30 March 2004, 08:27 »
100k shouldn't be too much of a problem for a mk4, but it would be best to get one that has full service history, preferably one with dealer service history.

The main things to check are:
- Cambelt should have been changed at between 60-80k (not the original VW recommendation of 120k!). At the same time it is advisable to change the water pump as the plastic impellors have been known to fail by 80k.
- At around 100k the engine ancillaries are getting a bit tired, in particular expect trouble with the air conditioning pump clutch (if fitted) and alternator bearings, but these are not difficult to replace with new or secondhand items so if they are noisy get them done before they stop you on the hard shoulder!
- If the windscreen wipers are slow or noisy then the wiper mechanism is starting to seize up, but this is easily cured by removing the assembly and regreasing the wiper spindles, alternatively a new assembly is only around ?30-40 from a dealer.

Common mk4 faults (regardless of age/mileage) are :
- Leaking rear screen washer, either into the inside of the tailgate where the water effects the interior light/alarm switch, or at another joint in the washer system behind the C pillar trim and water leaks into the boot of the car
- Dropping electric windows due to breakage of the (plastic) cable guides, but there is a metal repair kit available and there is a good chance that some of the cost will be covered by VW as this is a known problem.
- Faulty MAF (Air Mass Sensor), which can cause a flat spot in the engine power or poor fuel economy (note this does not necessarily throw a fault code in the ECU). These sensors were extremely expensive (?250-300) but VW have recently slashed the price to under ?100.
- Faulty boost valve on 1.8T models, identifiable by a fluttering sound when you lift off the throttle, but these cost less than ?20 to replace with an OE part or about ?80 for an uprated aftermarket part.

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Re:1.8T Gti - buyers guide??
« Reply #2 on: 30 March 2004, 15:23 »
Thanks for the reply Chris, some interesting points in there.  Naturally, i will accept nothing other then a fully stamped book.

What about the turbo units themselves?  Do they have a normal life of 60k miles or similar? (what's standard boost on these turbos - 5 or 6 psi?).   How much are you looking at for a replacement recon unit?

Cheers

Dave

Offline Rally_Chris

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Re:1.8T Gti - buyers guide??
« Reply #3 on: 30 March 2004, 17:09 »
Turbos are pretty bulletproof, particularly if the car has never been chipped. As long a the oil has been changed in accordance with the service schedule and the turbo has been looked after by the owner(s), eg by letting it spin down before stopping the engine, then they should be good for 150k or more.

Not sure of the boost pressure used.... will find out though!

Just another point that is worth mentioning if you are unfamiliar with recent VWs, and that is that the car could be on either a fixed ('extended') or variable service interval. A car may have been born with a variable service interval but many were changed by the supplying dealer at the PDI. If 'extended' then the services should have been carried out at 10000 mile or 12 month intervals. With variable the service interval could be between up to 20000 miles/2 years.

Where abouts in the country are you btw?

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Re:1.8T Gti - buyers guide??
« Reply #4 on: 30 March 2004, 17:33 »
Gloucestercestescestershire mate!

And not wishing to attract your scorn, but i've owned Vaux turbo's for the last 4 years.  Had a 1993 calibra turbo which i modified quite a bit and am in the process of selling my 2001 astra coupe turbo (standard save for an uprated intercooler).

I can only hope VW intercoolers are better then the poxy units vauxhall fit as standard (which seem to sit out of the air flow and have such a tiny core that they are practically useless).

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Re:1.8T Gti - buyers guide??
« Reply #5 on: 30 March 2004, 20:45 »
Hey you're not too far from me, I might be looking to sell my GTI in the not too distant future - have a look at my website at http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/golfstuff/my_car.htm

Currently 78000 miles on a 2000 (W) reg car and I'd be looking for about ?8.5k

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Re:1.8T Gti - buyers guide??
« Reply #6 on: 30 March 2004, 21:43 »
Sounds like a fair price, but my other half is expecting so i'm getting rid of astra coupe to release some cash.  Looking to spend approx 6k on next car - T/V Plate 1.8T with higher then av miles.

There's a few about too, which is good.

I commute to Swindon and back each day so need economy.  At a steady 75 - 80 mph cruise, reckon i should be getting 35 - 38mpg from a golf.

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Re:1.8T Gti - buyers guide??
« Reply #7 on: 30 March 2004, 21:56 »
They're (obviously) not as quick, but have you considered 1.8 non-turbo??

125bhp as standard.  0-60 in a smigin over 9 secs.

You could pick up a pretty nice example for ?6k.  Mine was ?7.5k in December but had only 45K miles on it
54-plate Golf 2.0 FSI GT.  Leather interior.

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Re:1.8T Gti - buyers guide??
« Reply #8 on: 31 March 2004, 12:22 »
I like the torque rush that a turbo gives (ideally, i'd plum for the GT TDi 150, but cannot afford that).

The 1.8 non turbo's 0-60 in just over 9 seconds?  How does that work - i thought the 2.0L Gti's took 10.5 seconds to get there.

I'll take a look and see what's about.

Question:  Did all 1.8T's come with recaro interior or was it an option?

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Re:1.8T Gti - buyers guide??
« Reply #9 on: 31 March 2004, 12:28 »
1.8t standard interior was 'VW sports', Recaro was optional I believe

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