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Offline jonathonturner

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12mm eibach spacers
« on: 14 December 2007, 22:10 »
am having some fitted on wednesday along with the forge dv valve...

am i doing the right thing?

i think it will look mint with the coilovers..anyone else fitted spacers to there mk5?

what does it drive like and have you had any problems?

Offline Ollieb7

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Re: 12mm eibach spacers
« Reply #1 on: 15 December 2007, 21:08 »
Would certainly be interested to see pics but spacers without re-alignment - could be a disaster for a handling.....
I bought a car with them - dreadful, took them off ....great!

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Re: 12mm eibach spacers
« Reply #2 on: 18 December 2007, 01:39 »
12mm is fair bit. I have 45 offset wheels, which is the same effect as fitting 6mm spacers, and this puts the tyres just inside the body. I would expect 12mm to cause a small amount of poke, at least at the front.

You should not need an alignment, as the wheels will still maintain the same toe setting - the spacers are parallel after all.
If your alignment settings are altered in any way by fitting spacers then you are in deep trouble.

Offline zerolight

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Re: 12mm eibach spacers
« Reply #3 on: 18 December 2007, 12:30 »
12mm is fair bit. I have 45 offset wheels, which is the same effect as fitting 6mm spacers, and this puts the tyres just inside the body. I would expect 12mm to cause a small amount of poke, at least at the front.

You should not need an alignment, as the wheels will still maintain the same toe setting - the spacers are parallel after all.
If your alignment settings are altered in any way by fitting spacers then you are in deep trouble.

Surely, by moving the wheels further out from the body, even just 12mm, will cause an increased bending moment (Bending moment = Force * Distance) and thus change the camber of the tire? I'd have thought it'd put an increased load on the bearings too. I'd be wary.

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Re: 12mm eibach spacers
« Reply #4 on: 19 December 2007, 01:47 »

Surely, by moving the wheels further out from the body, even just 12mm, will cause an increased bending moment (Bending moment = Force * Distance) and thus change the camber of the tire? I'd have thought it'd put an increased load on the bearings too. I'd be wary.

In terms of stresses within the suspension, using a spacer is no different to fitting wheels with a bigger offset.
As long as you are fitting bolt on spacers then the stress on the original wheel studs is also the same as if you are changing the wheel offset.
(Though if you fit slip-on spacers with longer wheel studs then this does noticibly increse the bending moment on the stud).

The increase in bending moment on the suspension and the wheel studs through changing offset from 51 to 39 would be negligible, and not worth worrying about.

Ever checked out highly modified road cars at a race track, and noticed cars with big wheels, covered by wheel arch extensions. You may be surprised how many are still running original strut and stub assemblies - and they don't break very often. That's under the stresses of racing.

I run a modified nissan race car, running 25mm bolt-on spacers at the rear and 10mm slip on spacers at the front with extended wheel studs.
With semi-slick tyres, and pushing 213 RWHP from 2 litres (non-turbo), it generates some serious speed. It also gets bounced off the trackside curbs, sufficent to have air under one side of the car. Far more stress than most road cars will ever experience. In 18 years of racing I have only ever broken the outer flange on one axle, and have never broken a front stub axle or a wheel stud.

The point is, any increase in stress is not significant enough to be a problem on the road.

If a 12mm change in offset causes a change in camber which can be measured then you must have defective suspension components.

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Re: 12mm eibach spacers
« Reply #5 on: 19 December 2007, 02:35 »
One item I should have clarified - are you planning on fitting the spacers to standard wheels - or at least wheel with the standard width 7 ½ ” and 51 offset?

If so, then the 12mm spacer will clear the bodywork OK.

My wheels are 8” wide, 45 offset, which puts the edge of the tyre 12.4mm closer to the outside of the car than a standard wheel, (6mm from the reduced offset, plus half of the extra width ¼”) so a 12mm spacer would give you the same spacing to the guards as my wheels if you fit them to a standard wheel.

That would fill the guards perfectly.  :cool: Go for it.

Offline jonathonturner

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Re: 12mm eibach spacers
« Reply #6 on: 19 December 2007, 10:02 »
car is running eibach prostreet but only slightly lower than stock..standard 18 monza...

couldnt go today, but might go in between xmas and new year to get it done...

will let you know and post pics...

Jt

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Re: 12mm eibach spacers
« Reply #7 on: 19 December 2007, 21:29 »
If you can, post some before & after pics so we can see the difference.