wheel hop reduction.....

[john_o]

Ok , first off I love my ED30 , so dont think all my posts are negative lol

Now the car is run in , its patently obvious that in the damp , the deployment of the horses is somewhat 'problematic'

Wheel hop , even when you try and drive around it , is pretty violent.
Now I know I should be a hooligan , but sometimes ........

ESP on or off its the same , prob better with it off though.


So , has anyone made any additions to improve this?
Or is it more a combination of such good geometry and good tyres that actually causes it?
(normally its a sign of knackered dampers etc ....)

what I look for is controlled wheelspin if it does happen.
Not the painful sound of 'hopping'

initial thoughts are

1. dog bone mount upgrade + maybe others too
2. Suspensions mods to increase neg camber

and yes , I know I can just 'lift off' , so no obvious replies

JohnO

[Hurdy]

Ok , first off I love my ED30 , so dont think all my posts are negative lol

Now the car is run in , its patently obvious that in the damp , the deployment of the horses is somewhat 'problematic'

Wheel hop , even when you try and drive around it , is pretty violent.
Now I know I should be a hooligan , but sometimes ........

ESP on or off its the same , prob better with it off though.


So , has anyone made any additions to improve this?
Or is it more a combination of such good geometry and good tyres that actually causes it?
(normally its a sign of knackered dampers etc ....)

what I look for is controlled wheelspin if it does happen.
Not the painful sound of 'hopping'

initial thoughts are

1. dog bone mount upgrade + maybe others too
2. Suspensions mods to increase neg camber

and yes , I know I can just 'lift off' , so no obvious replies

JohnO

Only ones really worth it are coilovers.

Alternatively there is the extreme of an LSD.

I'm assuming that you mean Axle tramp by wheel hop

[Komenda]

Engine damper will cure that, but you will feel the effects in the cabin

[john_o]

Hurdy:
thought axle tramp referred to RWD ?
but yes its that 'effect'

LSD oh yeah baby but not for now!

Komenda  :  are you talking about replacements for the OE mounts or an additional damper?


and Hurdy have you sought help for your PS addiction yet?  , covers up the slow coloured car I guess 

Thanks

John

[Hurdy]

 Hurdy have you sought help for your PS addiction yet?  , covers up the slow coloured car I guess 

Thanks

John

Still in rehab

[Komenda]

Hurdy:
thought axle tramp referred to RWD ?
but yes its that 'effect'

LSD oh yeah baby but not for now!

Komenda  :  are you talking about replacements for the OE mounts or an additional damper?


and Hurdy have you sought help for your PS addiction yet?  , covers up the slow coloured car I guess 

Thanks



John

An additional Damper directly connected to the chassis. Its not as severe as changing the engine mounts but does a good job of stopping the engine twisting under hard acceleration.

This is the one I had on my Civic

[TagnuT]

What tyres do you have fitted?

[Komenda]

My Current ones are Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta. Good tyres in the wet. Summer wheels I usually go for Toyo Proxes.

I see where you're going though, I had Bridgestones and they seemed to be the worst for wheel hop.

[TagnuT]

My Current ones are Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta. Good tyres in the wet. Summer wheels I usually go for Toyo Proxes.

I see where you're going though, I had Bridgestones and they seemed to be the worst for wheel hop.

How do you find them "overall" (the Vredsteins) ?

[Komenda]

Really good tyre. Noticably less road noise than the Conti's and no tyre squeel under hard cornering which I used to have with the conti's too. Dry grip is good but the Proxes are better. I think this is due to  a combination of the lower profile and bigger wheel size of the Toyo's. Best wet weather tyre I've had and compared to the major manufacturers they are well priced, think I paid £75 each for 225/45/17