edition 30 vs R32

[Hurdy]

well as most of the forum members are ED30 owners it isnt hard to see why they tend to put that ahead of the R32.
The R32 in my opinion is the better car and the best of the VW Golf range. As always this is my personal opinion.

Yes i know most would agree that the front isnt the best but it doesnt look that bad in the flesh. R32's look really nice in the flesh!

Straight line speeds dont mean sh1t. If you want straight line speeds than get a VXR or an S3. The R32 interms of the full package, is better than the GTI and the ED30. And if i had money to burn i would choose the R32 all day long. Why you ask? Well, because VW engineers should have made the GTI and the ED30 rear wheel drive which they didnt and thats its flaw!

REAR WHEEL DRIVE!!!!!!

Go and wash your mouth....err....keyboard with soap

RWD would give it lovely tail out fun in the dry, but would make it lethal in the wet/ice/snow.

I (sadly!) have to admit that 4WD is better than 2WD in the wet/ice/snow, but I wouldn't go for the Haldex 4WD, I would have to go with Audi's Torsen 4WD system.

On dry/drying roads then there is absolutely no point to 4WD as it just blunts performance due to added weight.

I personally will take my chances with the 10% of the time when 4WD is better (ergo R32 is better) and take the 90% of the time when it isn't needed and the ED30 is better. When you need 4WD for that 10% of the time an R32 driver doesn't have to worry and just trundles through as it were another corner, the GTI/ED30 driver has to use skill and adjust the car for the terrain and therefore gets a better sense of fun and fulfilment from their driving

[maxamus]

well as most of the forum members are ED30 owners it isnt hard to see why they tend to put that ahead of the R32.
The R32 in my opinion is the better car and the best of the VW Golf range. As always this is my personal opinion.

Yes i know most would agree that the front isnt the best but it doesnt look that bad in the flesh. R32's look really nice in the flesh!

Straight line speeds dont mean sh1t. If you want straight line speeds than get a VXR or an S3. The R32 interms of the full package, is better than the GTI and the ED30. And if i had money to burn i would choose the R32 all day long. Why you ask? Well, because VW engineers should have made the GTI and the ED30 rear wheel drive which they didnt and thats its flaw!

the GTI/ED30 driver has to use skill and adjust the car for the terrain and therefore gets a better sense of fun and fulfilment from their driving

haha what skill?
Oh you mean switching off the traction control so the wheels dont spin and hop 

[R32UK]

The R32 still requires a fair amount of skill to get it round the corners in the wet. Not as much as a FWD but believe me if you push the R32 it needs to be kept in check. As for sending the power to the back wheels.. this only happens when its required. In my opinion it keeps all the fun of the FWD hothatch and only does this when power is being wasted.. an ideal solution i would say, although many of you crackpots would disagree with this.

Sorry Hurdy gonna have to disagree with your percentages a little there.. i would say you need the power from the back wheels 90% of the time. So its a very effective setup... or maybe its just the way I drive

[Hurdy]

The R32 still requires a fair amount of skill to get it round the corners in the wet. Not as much as a FWD but believe me if you push the R32 it needs to be kept in check. As for sending the power to the back wheels.. this only happens when its required. In my opinion it keeps all the fun of the FWD hothatch and only does this when power is being wasted.. an ideal solution i would say, although many of you crackpots would disagree with this.

Sorry Hurdy gonna have to disagree with your percentages a little there.. i would say you need the power from the back wheels 90% of the time. So its a very effective setup... or maybe its just the way I drive

90% of the time with the back wheels sharing the drive eh

I can't fault you commitment to driving an R32 then

[R32UK]

The R32 still requires a fair amount of skill to get it round the corners in the wet. Not as much as a FWD but believe me if you push the R32 it needs to be kept in check. As for sending the power to the back wheels.. this only happens when its required. In my opinion it keeps all the fun of the FWD hothatch and only does this when power is being wasted.. an ideal solution i would say, although many of you crackpots would disagree with this.

Sorry Hurdy gonna have to disagree with your percentages a little there.. i would say you need the power from the back wheels 90% of the time. So its a very effective setup... or maybe its just the way I drive

90% of the time with the back wheels sharing the drive eh

I can't fault you commitment to driving an R32 then

I just think that its often overlooked that the haldex controls the power to all four wheels all the time. so even when coasting round a corner (for whatever reason) the power is shifted around and its noticable. Dont forget we are trying to control what is essentially a front heavy car.. I had the white paper for the haldex and it made quite an intersting read... the first few pages anyway. See if i can dig it out.

[DannyBoyR32]

sorry to be argumentative but the pull on the accelerator of the ed30 felt flat. considerably so.

i know zip all about the mechanics of cars and maybe i didn't take it for a long enough drive but in my eyes the r32 will always be the better car. 

[Manu_R32]

If the R32 doesnt have a permanent 4WD system, wouldnt it be wrong if thats what it says on www.volkswagen.com?

[maxamus]

If the R32 doesnt have a permanent 4WD system, wouldnt it be wrong if thats what it says on www.volkswagen.com?

Yes,

it would also be against the law for VW to advertise such information and they would eitehr be fined or asked to correct it. Thats the law in the UK

[Manu_R32]

Lets all sue themm!!!!

[TagnuT]

but in my eyes the r32 will always be the better car. 

Thats why you bought one.