edition 30 vs R32

[R32UK]

The only way of getting more power out of the V6 engine is to stick new more expensive bits on it. Hence pushing up the price of the R32. As for the R36...we it was only ever rumours!

I think before you start comparing power between the entire VW and Audi group you need to look at the components that make up the car... its purpose in the line up..... and ultimately the most important factor... cost! Yes the R32 probably was limited to being less powerful than the S3. Simply because its meant to be the inferior car, and Audi use the more expensive parts cough cough.

In my opinion, the Ed30 only came about for 2 reasons.

1. It was obviously the 30th anninversary of the golf.
2. The standard Gti was really being put under pressure from the other more powerful (but not better of course) hatchbacks.

VW looked in the old parts bin and put together the ED30 (in short). If they really wanted they could of had a much more powerful golf. i dont think they held back because of the R32 but simply because of the limits of other parts of the golf. IMO the R32 is made not to be the most powerful golf but to offer the driver that little bit more in terms of refinement, and drive i.e. big engine relatively small car. With the addition of the 4WD and the few extras chucked in to the mix the R32 is a very capable car, with one of theeeee sexiest sounding engines your probably likely to hear. The price to pay for all this is the fact that modding them is very very expensive.

In short, I guess what I am trying to say, as many others who have owned both say is the R32 is the best!!! no, only joking there. They are two entirely different cars and setups that share the same body, and offer a different type of enjoyment. Hence why so many times people will just shout go and drive both!!! the comparison is obviously going to be made! in terms of value then the ED30 wins hands down simply for its performance and tunability. If you test drive the R32 and can justify it to yourself to spend that little extra because its not just the speed  your after but the composed ride and rock steady handling. Then you are always going to go for the R32.

[maxamus]

The only way of getting more power out of the V6 engine is to stick new more expensive bits on it. Hence pushing up the price of the R32. As for the R36...we it was only ever rumours!

I think before you start comparing power between the entire VW and Audi group you need to look at the components that make up the car... its purpose in the line up..... and ultimately the most important factor... cost! Yes the R32 probably was limited to being less powerful than the S3. Simply because its meant to be the inferior car, and Audi use the more expensive parts cough cough.

In my opinion, the Ed30 only came about for 2 reasons.

1. It was obviously the 30th anninversary of the golf.
2. The standard Gti was really being put under pressure from the other more powerful (but not better of course) hatchbacks.

VW looked in the old parts bin and put together the ED30 (in short). If they really wanted they could of had a much more powerful golf. i dont think they held back because of the R32 but simply because of the limits of other parts of the golf. IMO the R32 is made not to be the most powerful golf but to offer the driver that little bit more in terms of refinement, and drive i.e. big engine relatively small car. With the addition of the 4WD and the few extras chucked in to the mix the R32 is a very capable car, with one of theeeee sexiest sounding engines your probably likely to hear. The price to pay for all this is the fact that modding them is very very expensive.

In short, I guess what I am trying to say, as many others who have owned both say is the R32 is the best!!! no, only joking there. They are two entirely different cars and setups that share the same body, and offer a different type of enjoyment. Hence why so many times people will just shout go and drive both!!! the comparison is obviously going to be made! in terms of value then the ED30 wins hands down simply for its performance and tunability. If you test drive the R32 and can justify it to yourself to spend that little extra because its not just the speed  your after but the composed ride and rock steady handling. Then you are always going to go for the R32.

well put!

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[Peskarik]

The thing that has always confused me is why the R32 is only 250bhp with its 3.2 V6 when the S3 is 265bhp from its 2.0T FSI

Shouldnt the R32 be 300BHP + .........

The limiting issue for the R32 power output is the DSG gearbox. VAG haven't engineered it for 300+ HP and similar torque outputs. Which is also why a DSG gearbox isn't an option on any other VAG performance cars. RS4, R8 etc.

not true, it does fine with 300+ hp and up to 400Nm torque

[cohiba]

Will the dsg on the ed 30 take 300+ bhp. 

[Hurdy]

Will the dsg on the ed 30 take 300+ bhp. 

Ask me again in a couple of years

[yelmarb]

The thing that has always confused me is why the R32 is only 250bhp with its 3.2 V6 when the S3 is 265bhp from its 2.0T FSI

Shouldnt the R32 be 300BHP + .........

The limiting issue for the R32 power output is the DSG gearbox. VAG haven't engineered it for 300+ HP and similar torque outputs. Which is also why a DSG gearbox isn't an option on any other VAG performance cars. RS4, R8 etc.

not true, it does fine with 300+ hp and up to 400Nm torque

Maybe for you it's fine for you but the boffins at Wolfsburg who spend weeks lapping the Nurburgring don't think so.

[DannyBoyR32]

personally i find the dsg a bit jerky but good in straight lines when power is increasing

saw some gti's and ed30's today at vw

they look good as well

in fact all three do (gti, ed30 and r32) and most would jump at the chance to drive any of them......

[Golfgirl]

i would say don't test drive both because you'll want the r32 as the power is incredible but i would consider your financial situation and work according to what you can afford or which one you like the look of

Add to that the fact the the Ed30 looks better, is  more exclusive, can be tuned easier and be quicker than an R32 (and also has better power-weight ratio), will be cheaper to run/insure/tax etc. it's a no-brainer for me really.
 

1. ED30 does not look better than the R32!

2. R32 is more exclusive (If anything, judging by this forum at least, there are more ED30 owners than GTI owners. No one buys a GTI anymore - they go straight for the ED30)

3. R32 has 4WD and ED30 doesnt so R32 has better power management

4. R32 has a better soundtrack

5. If you cant afford the up keep of an R32 then you should live within your means and get something else!

We'll just have to agree to disagree then.  R32 looks bland IMO with a tacky silver grille.  You prefer the looks of the R32, I prefer the looks of the Ed30.  One is neither better than the other, it's personal opinion.  Just because we don't agree it doesn't mean the other person is wrong. 

I know the R32 has a better soundtrack (I said that in my original post) but I don't buy a car just because it sounds good, it's an all-round package. 

As for affordability - if you'd have read my original post I said that I was all set to order one but thought I'd give the Ed30 a chance.  It just happens that the better car for me is the cheaper one, but I didn't choose it BECAUSE it was cheaper.

tbh i half agree if u read what i said
i just don't like the seats or gear knob
by the way, not being sexist but what type of driving do you do?


....tumble weed......


 

So if you're not being sexist why ask that question? I presume you think that because I'm a girl I just run to the shops and back?  Well you're wrong.  I'm relatively new on this forum but am quite well-known on other forums and many people will tell you that I am not your typical female driver.  Would I own a modified R32 if I was?  I have done several track days and quarter mile runs at Santa Pod and am also an advanced blue-light driver.  I also got shortlisted for Formula Woman a couple of years ago.

What I meant was the type of driving I do (ie. the roads I use) not the type of driver I am.  And if you came out with me I think you'd be surprised.  I would quite happily give anyone a run for their money.

[DannyBoyR32]

i would say don't test drive both because you'll want the r32 as the power is incredible but i would consider your financial situation and work according to what you can afford or which one you like the look of

Add to that the fact the the Ed30 looks better, is  more exclusive, can be tuned easier and be quicker than an R32 (and also has better power-weight ratio), will be cheaper to run/insure/tax etc. it's a no-brainer for me really.
 

1. ED30 does not look better than the R32!

2. R32 is more exclusive (If anything, judging by this forum at least, there are more ED30 owners than GTI owners. No one buys a GTI anymore - they go straight for the ED30)

3. R32 has 4WD and ED30 doesnt so R32 has better power management

4. R32 has a better soundtrack

5. If you cant afford the up keep of an R32 then you should live within your means and get something else!

We'll just have to agree to disagree then.  R32 looks bland IMO with a tacky silver grille.  You prefer the looks of the R32, I prefer the looks of the Ed30.  One is neither better than the other, it's personal opinion.  Just because we don't agree it doesn't mean the other person is wrong. 

I know the R32 has a better soundtrack (I said that in my original post) but I don't buy a car just because it sounds good, it's an all-round package. 

As for affordability - if you'd have read my original post I said that I was all set to order one but thought I'd give the Ed30 a chance.  It just happens that the better car for me is the cheaper one, but I didn't choose it BECAUSE it was cheaper.

tbh i half agree if u read what i said
i just don't like the seats or gear knob
by the way, not being sexist but what type of driving do you do?


....tumble weed......


 

So if you're not being sexist why ask that question? I presume you think that because I'm a girl I just run to the shops and back?  Well you're wrong.  I'm relatively new on this forum but am quite well-known on other forums and many people will tell you that I am not your typical female driver.  Would I own a modified R32 if I was?  I have done several track days and quarter mile runs at Santa Pod and am also an advanced blue-light driver.  I also got shortlisted for Formula Woman a couple of years ago.

What I meant was the type of driving I do (ie. the roads I use) not the type of driver I am.  And if you came out with me I think you'd be surprised.  I would quite happily give anyone a run for their money.

hey c'mon it was tongue in cheek 

tbh i drove the ed30 for about 500 metres and instantly took a dislike to it compared to r32, it just doesn't have the same feeling of sheer power

maybe it does higher up the revs but i want it all the way through that's all i'm saying

and those seats 

and the gear stick 

everything else is great and the alloys are