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Offline AlanD

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Re: edition 30 vs R32
« Reply #70 on: 29 November 2007, 14:25 »
i normally tend to look forward to getting something new but this has like just burst my bubble  :cry:

Dont mind me, im just being a jealous tw@t :D

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Re: edition 30 vs R32
« Reply #71 on: 29 November 2007, 14:50 »
i been away for a few days and what have i missed  :evil: :evil: :evil:
i would say it would be nice if you could mould all the benefits into one car
for me the one bad point about the r32 is the petrol, it's kinda disheartening
the golf gti for me doesn't look that different to a normal golf? am i wrong in saying that? and i've said the ed30 is good but not the seats......

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Re: edition 30 vs R32
« Reply #72 on: 29 November 2007, 15:07 »
the golf gti for me doesn't look that different to a normal golf? am i wrong in saying that?


thats blasphemy!

you should be taken out at the crack of dawn and shot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if anything the r32 looks more like the standard golfs/passats with it front. The GTI looks way way different with its grill and lipsick and foggys from any golf !
« Last Edit: 29 November 2007, 15:09 by maxamus »

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Re: edition 30 vs R32
« Reply #73 on: 29 November 2007, 15:11 »
the golf gti for me doesn't look that different to a normal golf? am i wrong in saying that?


thats blasphemy!

you should be taken out at the crack of dawn and shot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DannyboyR32....You have been found guilty of a most heinus crime.....If you were in the Sudan ( where they take you to court for giving the wrong name to teddy bears :lipsrsealed:) it would have been the death sentence for you matey boy :wink: :grin:
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Re: edition 30 vs R32
« Reply #74 on: 29 November 2007, 15:16 »
the golf gti for me doesn't look that different to a normal golf? am i wrong in saying that?


thats blasphemy!

you should be taken out at the crack of dawn and shot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if anything the r32 looks more like the standard golfs/passats with it front. The GTI looks way way different with its grill and lipsick and foggys from any golf !

I think Dannyboy is just suffering from slight jetlag. what he meant was.. sounds like a normal golf.. yeah thats right!! sounds like a normal golf!! :tongue:

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Re: edition 30 vs R32
« Reply #75 on: 29 November 2007, 15:25 »
the golf gti for me doesn't look that different to a normal golf? am i wrong in saying that?


thats blasphemy!

you should be taken out at the crack of dawn and shot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if anything the r32 looks more like the standard golfs/passats with it front. The GTI looks way way different with its grill and lipsick and foggys from any golf !

I think Dannyboy is just suffering from slight jetlag. what he meant was.. sounds like a normal golf.. yeah thats right!! sounds like a normal golf!! :tongue:

Errr.....bugg3r!...can't really argue with that :embarassed:
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Re: edition 30 vs R32
« Reply #76 on: 29 November 2007, 18:05 »
sorry
i meant polo
looks like a polo

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just had a little spin today when i got back, damn i love that car, the speed, oh the speed

i think we are all lucky to be honest, we've all got decent cars that fit our needs

except my need for speed is quite large, the need for speed that is.....................

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Re: edition 30 vs R32
« Reply #77 on: 29 November 2007, 20:59 »
sorry
i meant polo
looks like a polo

 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

just had a little spin today when i got back, damn i love that car, the speed, oh the speed

i think we are all lucky to be honest, we've all got decent cars that fit our needs

except my need for speed is quite large, the need for speed that is.....................

Its true, we shouldnt be comparing our cars all the time, leave that to people like Jeremy Clarkson etc who get paid to do so. At the end of the day what we buy is what we choose to drive and we all have our own reasons and advantages and disadvantages to why we bought the car....so happy driving  :smiley:

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Re: edition 30 vs R32
« Reply #78 on: 29 November 2007, 21:23 »
 I think that the main reasons that threads like this start off is that the ED30 and the R32 are so close together in the VW heirachy and blur the lines as to what people consider to be the halo model and the ultimate version of the golf. For so long the GTI had the party to itself until the MKIV R32 came along. In the MKIV R32 there was such a clear chasm in terms of performance and handling over the 1.8T that the performance choice was obvious. Similarly when the MKVR32 came along the difference was still there and it was still clear that the R32 was the ultimate version of the golf performance-wise, although in the handling stakes the lines began to blur due to the superb chassis and suspension of the GTI.
  Then the ED30 came along, faster and more powerful than the standard GTI, yet on paper still wanting in power against the R32. The fact that VW in their own inimitable way saw fit to endow the ED30 with what we now know is at least 240bhp and with a clear weight advantage over the R32 seems pretty much nonsense from a marketing perspective and yet they did it. What should we think about this?

1) They knew what they were doing and were originally intending on bringing out a more powerful version of the R32 to compensate until their economy drive decided to kick in and spoil the party?

2) They didn't realise that the ED30 would have such an impact to the Heirachy of the Golf range?

All I can say is that I believe that VW honestly were going to bring out a 290+BHP R32/R36 as a run out for the Golf MKV and that the bean counters got to them before it became a reality. This then left VW with two models of similar power, speed, handling and desirability that forums like ours debate it until the cows come home :undecided:

Tell me if you think I am wrong :undecided:
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Re: edition 30 vs R32
« Reply #79 on: 29 November 2007, 21:46 »
it does seem strange regarding the ed30 which is a great car no doubt but not the SEATS!!!

i think the issue is what you can econmically get out of a car (ie the manufacturer), ie the r32 will sell most at that bhp and that price

what they should have done is make a 4 exhaust golf around 300 bhp with the ed30 in the middle and job done but for the money or whatever maybe they thought it's not worth it - but i think it would be too expensive and in the price of merc/beemer and maybe not viable???

also you got to realise the uk is 1 market only. in usa certainly the jetta/passat seem 100% more frequent on the roads and when you look at where r32 is sold and by limited numbers then it stacks up.

is the ed30 available in other countries so widely? ie what's the take up? it seems far higher here and the significance is greater here it would seem despite being a german car