Author Topic: Standard factory fill oil?????  (Read 3787 times)

Offline R32UK

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Re: Standard factory fill oil?????
« Reply #10 on: 16 September 2007, 19:51 »
Thanks cass!! I will be doing that.

Strange actually because when my brother got his VW I remember the dealer giving him some and telling him to top up and keep checking it!

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Re: Standard factory fill oil?????
« Reply #11 on: 17 September 2007, 13:36 »
Got a litre of Mobil 1 with my car when new. Due a service on 24/09 and will be expecting the same. Might even provide the oil myself to save a few £'s :wink:

Cass

If it is Mobil 1 ESP - then you are OK, if it is not ESP, then sling it in the bin, or use it in your lawnmower, because dispite the claims on the bottle, the standard Mobil 1 is NOT VW approved.

Just checked TT - it is Mobil 1 5W-30 ESP formula :wink:

http://www.mobil.com/UK-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_ESP_Formula_5W-30.asp

Hmm, I would still avoid that oil.  Afterall, Mobil claim both BMW and VW LongLife approvals, and the two standards are quite different.  Mobil also claim a few more "lies" in that web page:

Also recommended for use in applications requiring 
 
BMW Longlife 01 and 01 FE 
Volkswagen (Gasoline)  502 00 / 503 00 / 503 01 
Volkswagen (Diesel) 505 00 / 506 00 
Volkswagen (Diesel "Unit-Injector/Pumpe-Düse" - exceptions pls see below)  505 01^ / 506 01^
^ except "Unit-Injector/Pumpe-Düse" R5/V10-TDi (VW 506 01) and 3/4-cylinder Diesel engines without Longlife-Service/without Diesel-Particulate-Filter (VW 505 01) 


Looks like they are upto their old tricks again.
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Re: Standard factory fill oil?????
« Reply #12 on: 17 September 2007, 13:47 »
Dealer should have given you a litre bottle for top-up purposes.

Only if you are on LongLife servicing, are they supposed to supply the top-up.


If you are unsure, I would call the dealer for clarification.

That is not good advice.  Every single stealer (VW and Audi) in the UK (and France) has repeatedly tried to supply me with the wrong spec oil.  I have regualar arguments with one stealer, who (a) does not understand the 3 different VW LongLife oil specs, (b) is unable to understand the difference between LongLife oil and LongLife servicing, (c) generally doesn't give a flying fcuk about the implications of using the wrong oil, and (d) admits to "occasional" engine failures due "incorrect lubrication".  :shocked:


The only definative way, is to read the owners handbook (and NOT the service book), take a note of the oil specs, and then look on the VW web site for their own authoritative list of appropriate VW approved oils.

The brands of oils I would personally recommend would be Castrol (or any from the same group, which include BP and Aral), Fuchs, Total, Motul.  I would use Shell if you pushed me, and would rather have a wisdom tooth extracted than use Mobil.
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