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Re: Porsche Brakes....
« Reply #20 on: 01 September 2007, 23:08 »
Why would you want to upgrade the stock breaks? They brilliant.

granted the stock ones are going to be good, but they aren't the best

I agree.  They don't have a particularly good "feel" at the pedal, and when the car is fully loaded, the standard anchors can feel everso slightly lacking, and in need of improvement.

uprated ones are going to have less fade and be able to stop quicker.

Agreed with less fade, but dont agree with stopping any quicker.  You need to "think out of the box" to work out why.  :wink:

the only think i will say is if you do upgrade the fronts, do the rears too, otherwise you mess up the balance and your passengers will constantly eat dash

Actually, no.  There is no need to do the rears.  The ABS system has something called EBD, which means "Electronic Brakeforce Distribution".  :nerd:


Oh, and to all the posters/lurkers reading this, Porsche have always had close working relationships with VAG.  One of their notable projects was the original Audi RS2 Avant.  Indeed, Porsche brakes is quite a popular upgrade.

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The stock brakes can fade and pedal response is poor compared with something like AP's.

I'm told (by AP) that you don't really need bigger brakes on the rear because the GTI isn't that heavy for their front stoppers and most (about 85%?) of braking is done on the front.

Ray West's road 'n track 270bhp GTI has Porsche brake components on 19" alloys but he milled the bells himself. I've driven it and braking is awesome but still smooth. He's got an international racing licence and so needs that level of performance on the track.

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Re: Porsche Brakes....
« Reply #21 on: 01 September 2007, 23:12 »
we have done upgrades on TT's, seats, only Vag though,

what you after? pics?

pics and prices i'm guessing  :smiley:



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Re: Porsche Brakes....
« Reply #22 on: 02 September 2007, 11:13 »
we have done upgrades on TT's, seats, only Vag though,

what you after? pics?

Pics, prices, specs - but more importantly, just be open, and be able to discuss your "offerings" in the open forum, rather than the secretive method of PMs.  :smiley:

I'm quite sure you will drum up more business in the open forum, rather than PMs!  :wink:
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Re: Porsche Brakes....
« Reply #23 on: 02 September 2007, 11:22 »
Why would you want to upgrade the stock breaks? They brilliant.

granted the stock ones are going to be good, but they aren't the best

I agree.  They don't have a particularly good "feel" at the pedal, and when the car is fully loaded, the standard anchors can feel everso slightly lacking, and in need of improvement.

uprated ones are going to have less fade and be able to stop quicker.

Agreed with less fade, but dont agree with stopping any quicker.  You need to "think out of the box" to work out why.  :wink:

the only think i will say is if you do upgrade the fronts, do the rears too, otherwise you mess up the balance and your passengers will constantly eat dash

Actually, no.  There is no need to do the rears.  The ABS system has something called EBD, which means "Electronic Brakeforce Distribution".  :nerd:


Oh, and to all the posters/lurkers reading this, Porsche have always had close working relationships with VAG.  One of their notable projects was the original Audi RS2 Avant.  Indeed, Porsche brakes is quite a popular upgrade.

...I agree with T_T:

Good, we are back to our harmonious state of mutual agreement!   :smiley:  :smiley:

The stock brakes can fade and pedal response is poor compared with something like AP's.

Whilst I havn't personally experienced any brake fade - yet, I do agree the pedal response is quite poor.

I'm told (by AP) that you don't really need bigger brakes on the rear because the GTI isn't that heavy for their front stoppers and most (about 85%?) of braking is done on the front.

All shortish cars, particularly hatchbacks are like that.  Even on longer wheelbase saloons with big boots (trunks, for any yanks reading), normal braking efficiency is around the 30% rear to 70% front.

However, what is missing from those equations is the relatively new control and wildly varying distribution ratios caused by stability programmes.  ESP does need to apply quite big forces to a single rear wheel brake, and it is not un-known for rears to fade!

Ray West's road 'n track 270bhp GTI has Porsche brake components on 19" alloys but he milled the bells himself. I've driven it and braking is awesome but still smooth. He's got an international racing licence and so needs that level of performance on the track.


Those rims are lush - who makes them?
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Re: Porsche Brakes....
« Reply #24 on: 02 September 2007, 11:47 »


Those rims are lush - who makes them?

....I think they've gone bust but were Southwest Wheels (? or similar name). They're not as nice close up in my opinion - The grooves on the spokes look hand done by an amateur. Ray's car was front cover and featured in Volkswagen Driver mag a while ago - I guess I could look it up for you but I want my breakfast, fast becoming brunch!! And I got a gig later. :cool:
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Re: Porsche Brakes....
« Reply #25 on: 02 September 2007, 19:20 »
On a trip to Crail 1/4 mile last year i got a passenger ride in a MK4 GTi fitted with 18" Anni alloys and Porsche Callipers, not sure what the discs were but the stopping power was impressive.the was owned by GaryM and i am sure it was the same AUQ/180bhp model i had.

Seen the alloys on a MK5 R32 in VW Driver issue 79, also fitted with Porsche callipers, West tuning, alloys by River. very nice, i did try to track them down but with no luck.
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Re: Porsche Brakes....
« Reply #26 on: 02 September 2007, 23:55 »
nothing secret going on just thought it was easier,  but i dont know how to pm on this forum anyway,


prices will depend on application,

i need to know:

car make and model

wheel size and make

what caliper you require,4 pot 6 pot etc, most cars on here will be fine with 4 pot

porsche 4 pot monoblocks work very well, we are currently doing a mk4 golf upgrade at the minute.

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Re: Porsche Brakes....
« Reply #27 on: 03 September 2007, 11:05 »
nothing secret going on just thought it was easier,  but i dont know how to pm on this forum anyway,

OK.  BTW, I think you need at least 20 posts before you can use the PMs.

prices will depend on application,

Alright, just as an example only, what would you recommend for a standard 200PS Golf V GTI with 18" Monza II rims - but which will be Revo'd (or similar) and Miltek'd in the near future?
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Re: Porsche Brakes....
« Reply #28 on: 03 September 2007, 11:53 »
Alright, just as an example only, what would you recommend for a standard 200PS Golf V GTI with 18" Monza II rims - but which will be Revo'd (or similar) and Miltek'd in the near future?

....Interesting quezzie :cool:. The spec sounds familiar.
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Re: Porsche Brakes....
« Reply #29 on: 04 September 2007, 00:11 »
nothing secret going on just thought it was easier,  but i dont know how to pm on this forum anyway,

OK.  BTW, I think you need at least 20 posts before you can use the PMs.

prices will depend on application,

Alright, just as an example only, what would you recommend for a standard 200PS Golf V GTI with 18" Monza II rims - but which will be Revo'd (or similar) and Miltek'd in the near future?


i have a leon cupra r with 300 bhp and find the standard 323 disks with the 4 pot brembos work very well, the 4 pot porsche monoblocks are even better than these and will benefit from these later on in your tuning path.