hi sorry i just read my original post it does sound like im asking if theyre replicas,i already knew that,what i should have said is which year r4 re they off coz ive never seen these type on an r4 apart from in just plain silver or them twin spokes, my fault ishould have made it more clearer.....doh,anyway what do you guys think off these,theyre going on my gti turbo in green and im gonna lower it about 45-50mm?