R32

[micalee]

Thats the badger!!

[maxamus]

what is the price of an R32 these days?
£24,000

[micalee]

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/cars_search.jsp?searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&photo=1&state=block&sort=3&hassearched=Y&make=VOLKSWAGEN&min_pr=18000&source=0&model=GOLF&max_pr=&miles=1500&agerange=&mileage=&postcode=tn26+1lf&variant=r32&bodyid=0&trim=&fuelid=0&colour=&transmissionid=0&keywords=&ukcarsearch_full.x=35&ukcarsearch_full.y=13

Probably starting off from £22K onwards

[illyun]

I'll post the rest of the pics over this coming weekend - honest  - as I've been meaning to finish that Tour thread of for ages.  I was in Gibraltar from the 25th December - arrived very late from Turin, Italy via Barcelona and it was one hell of a drive.  The car was left at the Elliot hotel for 7 days and then I arrived back at Gibraltar on the 1st January and left on the 2nd after spending an unscheduled day there - was meant to go to Granada but Gibraltar was too nice to just use as a stopping point.  I drove from the UK to Belgium, France, Switzerland, Italy, France again, Spain and then took a ferry to Morocco where I spent 7 days.  Then I drove to Granada and Cordoba and went back to the UK via Madrid, Poitier and Versailles - was running a bit early for the Ferry so thought I'd pop over and see the Palace at Versailles.  It took 19 days in all.  Out of all the places I went to Gibraltar was in the top 3 - it felt like being back in the UK again and was a nice break from the tour so to speak - plus it's a lot warmer and scenic. 

[Manu_R32]

I'll post the rest of the pics over this coming weekend - honest  - as I've been meaning to finish that Tour thread of for ages.  I was in Gibraltar from the 25th December - arrived very late from Turin, Italy via Barcelona and it was one hell of a drive.  The car was left at the Elliot hotel for 7 days and then I arrived back at Gibraltar on the 1st January and left on the 2nd after spending an unscheduled day there - was meant to go to Granada but Gibraltar was too nice to just use as a stopping point.  I drove from the UK to Belgium, France, Switzerland, Italy, France again, Spain and then took a ferry to Morocco where I spent 7 days.  Then I drove to Granada and Cordoba and went back to the UK via Madrid, Poitier and Versailles - was running a bit early for the Ferry so thought I'd pop over and see the Palace at Versailles.  It took 19 days in all.  Out of all the places I went to Gibraltar was in the top 3 - it felt like being back in the UK again and was a nice break from the tour so to speak - plus it's a lot warmer and scenic. 

Interesting!! Come back to Gib for a while now u know some one here! 

[illyun]

I'll post the rest of the pics over this coming weekend - honest  - as I've been meaning to finish that Tour thread of for ages.  I was in Gibraltar from the 25th December - arrived very late from Turin, Italy via Barcelona and it was one hell of a drive.  The car was left at the Elliot hotel for 7 days and then I arrived back at Gibraltar on the 1st January and left on the 2nd after spending an unscheduled day there - was meant to go to Granada but Gibraltar was too nice to just use as a stopping point.  I drove from the UK to Belgium, France, Switzerland, Italy, France again, Spain and then took a ferry to Morocco where I spent 7 days.  Then I drove to Granada and Cordoba and went back to the UK via Madrid, Poitier and Versailles - was running a bit early for the Ferry so thought I'd pop over and see the Palace at Versailles.  It took 19 days in all.  Out of all the places I went to Gibraltar was in the top 3 - it felt like being back in the UK again and was a nice break from the tour so to speak - plus it's a lot warmer and scenic. 

Interesting!! Come back to Gib for a while now u know some one here! 

I'm seriously thinking of doing just that... in my Edition 30 

[Manu_R32]

I'll post the rest of the pics over this coming weekend - honest  - as I've been meaning to finish that Tour thread of for ages.  I was in Gibraltar from the 25th December - arrived very late from Turin, Italy via Barcelona and it was one hell of a drive.  The car was left at the Elliot hotel for 7 days and then I arrived back at Gibraltar on the 1st January and left on the 2nd after spending an unscheduled day there - was meant to go to Granada but Gibraltar was too nice to just use as a stopping point.  I drove from the UK to Belgium, France, Switzerland, Italy, France again, Spain and then took a ferry to Morocco where I spent 7 days.  Then I drove to Granada and Cordoba and went back to the UK via Madrid, Poitier and Versailles - was running a bit early for the Ferry so thought I'd pop over and see the Palace at Versailles.  It took 19 days in all.  Out of all the places I went to Gibraltar was in the top 3 - it felt like being back in the UK again and was a nice break from the tour so to speak - plus it's a lot warmer and scenic. 

Interesting!! Come back to Gib for a while now u know some one here! 

I'm seriously thinking of doing just that... in my Edition 30 

So do so!! The weather here is really really nice, very very sunny  Im sure you will enjoy it! I will be in london as from the 10th of July if any one wants to meet up lol 

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Allow me to throw some spanners into the mix, regarding the GTI vs R32 debate.

Firstly, I'll start by stating the R32 is a very fine car, but, IMHO, it is no better than a GTI or Ed30 !!

OK, the good points of the R32 - it has a V6 engine.  That is it!

Now for the bad points of the R32 - it has a V6 engine, or to be more precise, a narrow angle VR6 engine.  This has very limited scope for tuning, on a whole range of issues.  Secondly, it is considerably more heavier than the 4-pot GTI engine.  This extra mass up front causes noticeable understeer (as reported by virtually all the motoring press), whereas the GTI has never been accused of suffering from understeer.

The R32 will use about 30% more petrol compared to a GTI.

The R32 will cost more to maintain compared to a GTI.

The R32 will cost more to insure compared to a GTI.

The R32 also has a noticeably smaller boot, compared to the GTI.

And the real issue which a lot of people don't understand (and the stealers salesmen/women won't tell you) - it does NOT have permanent, full time four wheel drive.  Under normal driving conditions, on normal roads, only the front wheels are driven.  Power is only sent to the rears, in some kind of glorified "traction control" system, using the nasty Haldex coupling.  With the Haldex, you need to have it serviced every 40k miles, and it is a pain in the ar$e to do.  You also need to ensure that you have 4 identical tyres, particularly in tread wear.

Like I said above, the R32 is a good car, but it is relying soley on the "kudos" of being the "pinacle" of the Golf range.  If you absolutely must have the largest capacity engine, or 6 cylinders instead of four, or the "claim" of four wheel drive - then the R32 will be the car for you.

However, if you want the best handling Golf, or the most "tuneable" Golf, or the most economical "performance" Golf - then either the GTI or the Ed30 will be better than the R32.

I now don my flame-proof coat, and await further discussion, and clarification of any of my points!   

[Manu_R32]

Interesting......love your sig btw!!!

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Interesting......love your sig btw!!!

Don't take the pi$$ out of that one, or the hairy ba$tard will return!!!