thanks for youre promt replies,much apreaciated.didnt realise the 2.0gti power output was so low(no offence intended).currently run a 2.5vectra sri(pls dont ban me!),am looking 2change and wanted somat similar performance,2.3v5 would be nice replacment just the cost,am used 2vauxhall prices afterall!!again thanks,prob av look at 1.8T gti.