Author Topic: Good deal? And advice on Miltek and Eibach mods... (Read 5158 times)

NORTHERNER · « **on:** 12 June 2007, 20:19 »

Hi folks- I am looking to buy a second hand 05 GTi in Black with DSG and Xenons, 21k on the clock for Ã‚£15.6k - seems a good deal when I research current prices... any thoughts from you more experienced folks?

Also the owner has fitted Eibach springs and a Miltek exhaust... are these benficial mods, or will these damage the performance of the car... sometimes after market mods can have detrimental affects after all.

Thanks for you help and if all goes well I hope to contribute a bit more than stupid questions to this forum.

Cheers

Pabs32 · « **Reply #1 on:** 12 June 2007, 21:27 »

That sounds like a good price to me especially with that spec. The cheapest Black GTI in Autotrader (apart from accident damaged one) is around Ã‚£15.5K. Nothing cheaper.
I personally would not buy a car that's had those mods, even if they did improve the cars performance lets face it this car has probably not been used to amble down to the shops and back has it?
That might be a bit presumptive but you just never know. At that price I guess it's worth a look but I would question the sellers motive and would also check out what happens to the VW warrenty and insurance premium a result of the mod.

NORTHERNER · « **Reply #2 on:** 12 June 2007, 22:18 »

Yeah - I was slightly wary too... I am not one for modding cars really, but understand why people do... guess the low mileage is a comfort, plus the fact that it is still in warranty for another 16 months or so...
I can't imagine it will have been thrashed for all 21k miles though, and if it has then that should maifest itself in problems pretty easily (or so i would hope).
Those mods seem pretty innocuous... I wouldn't touch a chipped car though... I guess its a case of see it, test drive it for a long period, and get a HPI check!!
Thanks for your feedback.

Cass · « **Reply #3 on:** 12 June 2007, 23:13 »

Both items are premium aftermarket brands and may well be, arguably, better than the factory standard spec, which have to be produced as all things for all men (and women

). As long as they have been professionally fitted (check with seller) and they don't void the warranty, they should be OK. Does the seller still have the original items and if so, can they be included in any sale. Only other point is that it may increase your insurance premium so check this out first.

IMHO, the Mk V GTI is a bit of a grown up car and I personally would not consider giving my car the Max power treatment, but then I am an old git now

Understandable though, as second hand cars reach this level, they are getting quite affordable for the younger element

The GTI is a great choice,new or second hand

Cass

NORTHERNER · « **Reply #4 on:** 12 June 2007, 23:36 »

Cheers Cass - I am 31, so TBH I am not into the Max Power thing myelf

Don't know if that makes me old before my time or what.
The very reason I am looking at the Golf GTi is because it is a grown up car, I have also looked at the Cooper S and the Works Cooper S but I didn't feel as comfortable with the style element. Also looked at RX8's but reasecrh and chatting with various people in the Owners Club put me off a little... few teething problems with corrosion...

Anyway, what I realised I really wanted was the Golf GTi... they are a superb drive. Unfortuantely I REALLY want Xenons, I have done a fair bit of driving and know thet are important to me (my fabia vRS had them)... after market HiD are a no:no for me... plus would also like the 18 inch rims which I guess is the more showy side of me crying our for a bit of attention! Unfortuantely the Xenon option is very rare in the second handers available... limits my choice...

Anyone on these forums got these aftermarket mods installed? What does it do to the warranty...? I guess I could phone a dealer and find out...

Cheers

RedRobin · « **Reply #5 on:** 12 June 2007, 23:48 »

Well, I'm 60yo and my car is modded. Milltek exhaust was my first mod at 1,500 miles. The exhaust is prime quality stainless steel, so what harm do you think it can do?

KoniFSD+Eibach springs and Eibach Anti-roll bars were next and fitted by a professional and checked by laser alignment. Handling and ride is greatly improved. What harm do you think that setup can do?

Most modded cars are particularly well maintained and looked after, so why shouldn't they be a good buy?

Cass · « **Reply #6 on:** 12 June 2007, 23:53 »

Yeah, I agree Xenons and 18" wheels are good options to have. Once you've driven with those lights, you won't go back to the old halogens. Ride quality with the larger wheels is good too and not too harsh compared with the standard 17" - wouldn't go any bigger than 18's. Keep your eye out here for some second hand examples - price might be higher than you are currently looking at though - but it is always a buyers market out there

Good luck with the hunt.

Cass

Cass · « **Reply #7 on:** 12 June 2007, 23:55 »

Quote from: RedRobin on 12 June 2007, 23:48

Well, I'm 60yo and my car is modded. Milltek exhaust was my first mod at 1,500 miles. The exhaust is prime quality stainless steel, so what harm do you think it can do?

KoniFSD+Eibach springs and Eibach Anti-roll bars were next and fitted by a professional and checked by laser alignment. Handling and ride is greatly improved. What harm do you think that setup can do?

Most modded cars are particularly well maintained and looked after, so why shouldn't they be a good buy?

Excellent case for the defence RR

Cass

Peskarik · « **Reply #8 on:** 13 June 2007, 06:53 »

Quote from: NORTHERNER on 12 June 2007, 20:19

Hi folks- I am looking to buy a second hand 05 GTi in Black with DSG and Xenons, 21k on the clock for Ã‚£15.6k - seems a good deal when I research current prices... any thoughts from you more experienced folks?

Also the owner has fitted Eibach springs and a Miltek exhaust... are these benficial mods, or will these damage the performance of the car... sometimes after market mods can have detrimental affects after all.

Thanks for you help and if all goes well I hope to contribute a bit more than stupid questions to this forum.

Cheers

Both Eibach and Milltek improve your car (if it is set up properly, that is). You get sportier ride, faster throttle response, better turbo health, meatier sound, some more power, and better looks. These are the parts I will put on my car first and foremost, as well.

Now, how the car was treated - that's a different matter.

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On another topic... why people always say things like "I hope to contribute a bit more than stupid questions..." or "sorry for askinga stupid question" and similar things?

Students sometimes ask me something and add these sentences, as well.
We are not supposed to know everything! There are NO stupid questions, in my book, especially when you learn something new!

There are no stupid questions, just stupid answers, IMHO!
Keep on asking!

Peskarik · « **Reply #9 on:** 13 June 2007, 07:02 »

I believe Milltek exhaust IS better than the factory-fitted exhaust, especially if it is turbo-back. It has unlimited warranty. I don't think VDub overall warranty is void after exhaust installation. Milltek full exhaust is in my opinion THE best mod you can treat your GTI to, whether you are a tuner-junky or not. It only has positive sides: engine breathes better, no bottleneck at the turbo, better sound, better performance, weight saving, and emission levels are kept within limits. But it does increase your insurance premium.

Eibach springs (now I am talking about pro-kit, not sport springs) do not destroy the ride quality significantly. They are uprated 25%, but they are also progressive, so they improve handling when needed. And they do not lower the car so much that it looks like a boy-racer.

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