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Offline 92Mk2Gti

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Not starting again, new problem
« on: 11 April 2007, 11:01 »
Hi all, thanks loads for all the help in the past. Now I have to ask for your help once again as my golf is refusing to start again.   :sick:   :angry:

When I turn the key I hear the furl pump prime for the usual amount of time but all I get when i try to start it is a loud clicking from under the bonnet, it seems to be coming from the starter motor, and the engine doesn't turn over. I have read about the solenoid in there clicking or something, i guess it copuld be that? I tested all other electric things in the car which seem to be working fine except sometimes when the battery power seems to be intermittent - ignition lights flash on and off and a relay ticks on and off in the fuse box too. When the car was in this state I tried the electric window and that was intermittent too, like it was jerky but uniformly so, in time with the ticking.

My earth wires seem to be ok, except the one from the bonnet to the body (surely this won't affect anything) The main earth lead from battery to gear box is a year old.

Car was running well before.

I read obout rocking the car in gear, do you think this will work? going to try it tomorrow-  at work at the moment, I tried to jump it with leads yeasterday but no luck. Also gave the starter motor a good wack or two but maybe i should give it a bit more, starter motor is well rusty so perhaps a new one could be in order? are they expensive?

I checked all fuses, they are ok, could it be a relay problem?

Sorry for the long post, hope someone can help..

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Offline rubjonny

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Re: Not starting again, new problem
« Reply #1 on: 11 April 2007, 15:24 »
sounds liek the starter is dead, but it may have jammed. Try putting it in 3rd & rock back & forth as said, that works works for our polo when it does the same thing :)
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Re: Not starting again, new problem
« Reply #2 on: 11 April 2007, 17:48 »
cheers mate
i'll try this tomorrow morning and if that fails i'll be buying a new starter motor as this one is severely rusted, any idea how much i should be paying my scrappy for one?  :undecided:
bolloks, how do i get to the scrappy....  :cry:

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Re: Not starting again, new problem
« Reply #3 on: 11 April 2007, 18:48 »
i wouldnt payt more than £20 for a 2nd hand starter motor :)
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Re: Not starting again, new problem
« Reply #4 on: 11 April 2007, 19:02 »
i think gsf/euro car parts do starters for £60ish but you must give them your old one, much better than a 2nd hand one that you know nothing about. at least you`ll have peace of mind
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Re: Not starting again, new problem
« Reply #5 on: 11 April 2007, 19:07 »
depends what make it is tbh, if its a cheapo one I'd take a bosch 2nd hand one any day!
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Re: Not starting again, new problem
« Reply #6 on: 11 April 2007, 20:27 »
depends what make it is tbh, if its a cheapo one I'd take a bosch 2nd hand one any day!

same.

i had a similar problem in my car

me and my mates were all in itand it wouldn't start, so I told everyone to be quiet, and then it started right up! Why??

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Re: Not starting again, new problem
« Reply #7 on: 11 April 2007, 21:36 »
First check the voltage on your battery. It may have enough to energize the solenoid, but not to turn the starter.
Saying that though, it does sound like starter but check battery first.


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Re: Not starting again, new problem
« Reply #8 on: 12 April 2007, 15:17 »
Update:

Just been out and tried the rocking thing, very difficult because she's parked on a hill, it didn't help but i might try it again when i have a mate with me.
Tried to remove the starter motor to have a look at it but it's not easy, got one bolt out but the other two are tough to get to and i just broke the ratchet in my socket set somehow.. cheap tat from halfrauds. Are there just three bolts holding the starter motor on? Any tips for undoing the bottom two?

Any further ideas of what the problem might be?

When i turn the ignition on now it just ticks on and off including the normal dash lights, tick... tock... tick... tock... etc, when i try to start it it just ticks faster ticktockticktock. You can hear the relays ticking also but the loud clicking from the starter motor has gone. If i turn the lights on the ticking stops, maybe i should have tried to start it with the lights on....?!

I'm going to call the AA out if i can't start it by tomorrow, i'm hoping to go to santa pod on sunday!

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Re: Not starting again, new problem
« Reply #9 on: 12 April 2007, 15:32 »
you need to support the engine when you take the starter out as a couple of the bolts go thru the front engine mount!
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