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[Onge]

Patience young skywalker.........

I've been trying to find a graph.

More accessible means that the torque is there, without revving the guts out of it, and kanning the juice.

Dont get me wrong, i like 16v's i used to have one.

[Overseer]

i'm gonna have to try race an 8v.. i know i can rape em on the mway.. lol

good luck with the graphs

[Onge]

Ok mate,

I'm having difficulty findnig these graphs, (anyone??)

I might draw my own (on the sly), showing huge 8v torque



 

[Overseer]

haha.. i had look before too.. not much luck.

where did those figures come from?

[Onge]

Done a search on Google : 8v Golf gti

or something like that, have to look some more

[Dizzie]

the 8v doesn't have more torque than the valver. it has has a different power curve on both bhp and tq. The valver and VR have more torque than the 8v.

The VR6 is the same as the 8v, but with 2 more cylinders... Still got 1 inlet, 1 outlet valve for each cylinder, just has 2 more. therefore obviously more power. The 8v may seem better because of that 'instant' power/torque you get during normal driving (2500-4500rpm range).

The valver has 2 smaller inlet and 2 outlet valves making it 'more revvy'. it doesn't create less torque than the 8v or the VR, just creates it higher up the rev range. Which is usefull for overtaking and 1/4 mile runs. yes?

The mk3 8v gti is A LOT heavier than the comparitive mk1 and mk2 8v gti's. even though they produce similar power the power to weight is a lot different between the 3. To say the mk3 8v is faster than the VR is total BS. The VR is so much faster end of.

[Onge]

the 8v doesn't have more torque than the valver. it has has a different power curve on both bhp and tq. The valver and VR have more torque than the 8v.

The VR6 is the same as the 8v, but with 2 more cylinders... Still got 1 inlet, 1 outlet valve for each cylinder, just has 2 more. therefore obviously more power. The 8v may seem better because of that 'instant' power/torque you get during normal driving (2500-4500rpm range).

Cheers for clarifying  - In essence 8v Better day to day driving  

The valver has 2 smaller inlet and 2 outlet valves making it 'more revvy'. it doesn't create less torque than the 8v or the VR, just creates it higher up the rev range. Which is usefull for overtaking and 1/4 mile runs. yes?

[Overseer]

Done a search on Google : 8v Golf gti

or something like that, have to look some more

got it...

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/1019/golf_mk3.htm

the full table goes..

                                             Golf GTI 8v                      Golf GTI 16v Golf
bhp                                       115                                150
torque                                   166 Nm at 3200 rpm     180 Nm at 4800 no data available
acceleration (0-100) km/h     10,1 s                            8,3 s
Top speed                             198 km/h                       215 km/h no data available

[Onge]

Nice one,

There's no graph to show the full curve.

I think Dizzie was spot on with his appraisal.

Easiest option.
Buy a R32 - blast everyone
 

[Dizzie]

just so no one gets me wrong. I drive an 8v all the time and I love it to bits. It revs well all the way to the red line. When I drove the pug 206 180gti I hated it cos there wasn't as much torque as I would of liked lower down the revs, but once it was over 4500rpm it was a rocket. it's the same with honda's Vtec. Just wait until that winds up!

back to the mk3 vs anything else 'fight'. It's all down to power to weight ratio. Why do you think bikes are so fast when they only have 900cc engines

If you want modern power for your mk1/2 there are a number of options to suit every driving style and future power hikes.

bottom line:
8v lower tq curve - better for daily driving
VR faster (and heavier) version of the 8v
16v better reving with a higher tq curve. more tuneable
20v similar to the valver
turbos, supercharghers and NOS. Just more fun at the end of the day