OIL CHANGE QUERY

[Phil mcavity]

im going out on a test drive for 2 hours on tuesday in the seat leon cupra tdpf170, although its slower to 60 then the gti, figures show that mid range pull is on bar maybe higher then the GTI, and the pull of 46-48 to the gallon town mileage is a pull. It has the full sports kit on also, alot of xtras , brand new for straight swop +cash back. will let you know what i find out when i lay some 2 or 3mm of tread in the Test car!

[Teutonic_Tamer]

im going out on a test drive for 2 hours on tuesday

That should be just about long enough to empty the tank    .  We await with bated breath your detailed report! 

in the seat leon cupra tdpf170,

Do they not do one without the particulate filter??

although its slower to 60 then the gti,

You lose in the traffic light grands prix 

figures show that mid range pull is on bar maybe higher then the GTI,

Trouble with diesels, you will find it running out of steam much earlier than petrols, and you'll be swinging away on the gear lever, like John Travolta look alikes at a '70s disco!  (Unless you can get DSG, which really is made for the 2.0 TDI).

and the pull of 46-48 to the gallon town mileage is a pull.

Aye, no contest there.

It has the full sports kit on also, alot of xtras,

Yebut, it will still be fugly, and will still have less kit than the equivalent Golf!

brand new for straight swop +cash back.

Fook me - that says a lot for the strong GTI residuals, against the appauling residuals of Seats (I think SEat residuals are actually worse than Skoda - just a thought - have you tried the Fabia vRS??)

will let you know what i find out when i lay some 2 or 3mm of tread in the Test car!

We need pix of canvass showing on the boots       

[Smythe1981]

Hi Guys

Forgive me, but i'm bloody confused with all this Oil talk

Can someone tell me exactly what Oil i should be using in my GTI?

I'm set to a longlife service and i've bought Castrol GTX Magnatec 5w30 from Halfords, They didn't ahve any of the fancy new Edge stuff, I did look for it.

Am I using the correct Oil or not??

Thanks

Confused!

[farina]

Hi Guys

Forgive me, but i'm bloody confused with all this Oil talk

Can someone tell me exactly what Oil i should be using in my GTI?

I'm set to a longlife service and i've bought Castrol GTX Magnatec 5w30 from Halfords, They didn't ahve any of the fancy new Edge stuff, I did look for it.

Am I using the correct Oil or not??

Thanks

Confused!

In a word - No.  Go get the proper VW approved stuff.  Castrol SLX Longlife III, Castrol Edge 5w/30 (the new name) or one of the other VW 504.00 spec oils.  Using the wrong oil could cause all sorts of issues if there was an engine warranty claim.

[mrtibbs27]

Been working so I haven't had the chance to comment on oil changes. I took my GTi in for its only service while I had it at around 22500 miles after about 19 months. It was set at the factory to the long life service and I used V.W oil, the service cost about £180 altogether from what I recall. I asked the Service Manager his opinion on long life and he said it was fine if set by the factory. So I guess my Edition 30 will be treat the same being as I had no problems on the other Gti

[Phil mcavity]

Just to update on progress, bad move this!

 took the missus to the seat dealership to see the leon FR 170TDI, Her verdict was, dont like it, sat in it briefy and thats the conclusion that she came too, so then just as we are about to leave, she spots a jet black SEAT ALTEA, limited edition, all bells and whistles, now she liked the look of this cus its bigger inside then the golf and leon, has very good spec, for £16995, so bang goes my fast ride!!, gonna loose the GTI  by the looks of it...... but then..........BRAINWAVE!, i asked the dealer "do u do this in an FR spec???, oh yes we do!!!, so shes gonna get here Housing estate carrier whilst at the same time i get the "daddy cool" version that has all the noobs the leon has and some more extras to boot and does between 40 and 50 to the gallon which is what started all this off about thew cost of running the GTI..I will say though, We do have to think ahead cus she is 13 weeks pregnant, so expecting 2nd and LAST child by september. They have offered me £18500 for my 05 gti, and will get straight in a brand spanker with 12 weeks wait for it, so will enjoy her for a while longer. oh and now test drive tuesday is now in an ALTEA FR instead of leons version.

also , will add, surprising ammount of GOLF dash parts in view i recongised!, even the sat is the same mfd2 dvd type!, swich gear, better radio and mp3 player, same multifuntion computer etc etc, good reviews from what ive read so i hope this is the right thing to do.

 i will miss her when shes gone, and will never forget of being lucky enough to have owned one

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Can someone tell me exactly what Oil i should be using in my GTI?

I'm set to a longlife service and i've bought Castrol GTX Magnatec 5w30 from Halfords, They didn't ahve any of the fancy new Edge stuff, I did look for it.

Am I using the correct Oil or not??

Absolutely not.  Take the oil back to Halfrauds and demand your money back.  If they refuse, quote the Sale of Goods Act, specifically the term "fit for its' purpose".  The maganatec range is semi-synthetic, and is NOT suitable for the GTI on LongLife.  The only oils you  should use in your GTI on LongLife are oils which meet the VW standards 504.00, or 503.00, or 503.01.  If the oil does not have any of those approvals on the bottle, it is NOT fit for your GTI, and the muppets at Halfrauds should know better.

As farina stated, Castrol SLX LongLife III, now replaced by Castrol EDGE 5w30, and Castrol SLX LongLife II should all be stocked by Halfrauds.  Don't use Comma or Mobil 1 oils either!

[Teutonic_Tamer]

I took my GTi in for its only service while I had it at around 22500 miles after about 19 months.

That has gone over mileage!!!  The LongLife service regime, and warranty, covers flexible service intervals of UP TO 24 months, or 20,000 miles - whichever occurs sooner!  I would seriously consider speaking to the Service Manager.  Maybe the SID was incorrectly coded on the PDI, either way, if you need to make a warranty claim, be prepared for a fight!

It was set at the factory to the long life service and I used V.W oil, the service cost about £180 altogether from what I recall.

Sounds quite reasonable.  What neck of the woods are you from?

I asked the Service Manager his opinion on long life and he said it was fine if set by the factory. So I guess my Edition 30 will be treat the same being as I had no problems on the other Gti

I personally would never run a "high performance" motor on LongLife servicing.  Remember, the LongLife system was developed for "run of the mill" rep-mobiles, and not high performance motors, and the bean counters and fleet management companies, to minimise their costs.  They will then get rid of them after three years, having only paid for one service, and not giving a monkies about the future reliability.

Grab any up-to-date Audi brochure, and they now categorically state that LongLife is NOT suitable for, amongst many other reasons, high performance motors, - and so are on the standard time/distance servicing!

[TeddyKGB]

Grab any up-to-date Audi brochure, and they now categorically state that LongLife is NOT suitable for, amongst many other reasons, high performance motors, - and so are on the standard time/distance servicing!

So you'd definitely agree that time/distance is recommended?

Mine is currently set to long life - would there be any issues getting it changed to time/distance say when I get the oil done at 5000 miles? Or should I have had this done when I first got it?

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Grab any up-to-date Audi brochure, and they now categorically state that LongLife is NOT suitable for, amongst many other reasons, high performance motors, - and so are on the standard time/distance servicing!

So you'd definitely agree that time/distance is recommended?

Well . . . . without knowing exactly what motor you drive ( I could guess it is a Golf GTI, however, other peeps on these boards seem to be running TDIs, Polos etc - as well as GTIs !!! - hint: update your signature, so we have to guess no longer        ) - and, how you drive, I can't make a definate recommendation!

If it is a GTI, and you drive it as it was meant to be - then yes - abso-fookin-lutely - get off LongLife and go onto time/distance, which just to remind everyone is up to 12 months or up to 10,000 miles, whichever occurs soonest.  (Whereas LongLife is upto 24 months or up to 20,000 miles).

Mine is currently set to long life - would there be any issues getting it changed to time/distance say when I get the oil done at 5000 miles?

In a word - yes!  It is highly unlikely the stealer will be able to work out how to re-code the SID correctly (they have to manually input the correct number of days, and miles, and because they are only used to inserting either 365 or 720 days, they may run out of fingers and toes to add up on  ) - so whoever does an oil change at 5k miles (do it yourself - 19mm hex for the sump plug, 36mm hex for the oil filter!), tell them not to re-program the SID.  Then, when 12months or 10k miles aproaches, book it in to VW/Seat/Skoda/Audi garage for the 10k service, and tell them to re-program the next service for time/distance.

Or should I have had this done when I first got it?

Yes, but it is too late now - stable doors and horses running wild come to mind!

This seems to be the one crucial area which many VW dealers seem to lag behind their Audi dealer collegues on.  Ever since VAG introduced the LongLife / variable servicing option, Audi dealers were always advising high performance models not to use LongLife.  Indeed, the last model S3 (8L), and the TT 225 were never allowed to go on LongLife.  The new Audi brochures have quite clear advice on how to choose which regime to use, but the info from VW is severly lacking!

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