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Offline neil_1821

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Re: What the hell?
« Reply #10 on: 22 February 2007, 13:07 »
Well both times when the engine died i dipped the clutch cause i was coming to a strat and i notice sometimes if i boot it while stationary up to around 4000 rpm and let it idle down sometimes it'll drop to about 600 rpm so i'm gonna give the throttle body a bloody good clean when i get time and let you know if it's made any difference.

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Re: What the hell?
« Reply #11 on: 22 February 2007, 14:07 »
for what its worth - those are exactly the same symptoms I had when the TB on my Alfa156 got gunged up...

Cleaned it & they went away.  :smiley:

And then came back becuase it was an Alfa & they do that...

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Re: What the hell?
« Reply #12 on: 22 February 2007, 18:55 »
Does anyone have a procedure for cleaning out the throttle body? With pictures if possible. Do things need to be technically reset after performing such a job. I am not a mechanic and so a little worried about upsetting something when I attempt the clean.

In addition to the stalling most times when clutch is dipped on slowing down, I've noticed that as it is sat idling, it is sat at around 800rpm dipping to 750 rpm. This to me is unsettled idling and so I am thinking that the throttle body clog-up is getting progressivly worse and so the idling is doing what it is doing. What are your GTI's idling at - I thought that it was a little low and should be at 850 - 900 though I know very little about this.

Any recommendations on what type of carbon cleaner to use?
Thanks
Julee
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Offline oneblueleg

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Re: What the hell?
« Reply #13 on: 22 February 2007, 23:28 »
Does anyone have a procedure for cleaning out the throttle body?

Try this thread, it's in there somewhere...http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2080.0

And cheers EvilScotsman, there's probably no harm in cleaning it out anyway, but I've changed the fuel pump relay and it seems OK for now... I won't know if it's done the job for a while yet possibly (it goes for anytime between 5 mins and 5 months to cutout!). I'd like to try one thing at a time... I'd bought it by the time I saw the TB info. I wanted the ECU relay, but the stealers said my car didn't use one and they didn't have one anyway... :laugh:

Offline neil_1821

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Re: What the hell?
« Reply #14 on: 23 February 2007, 20:18 »
and it seems OK for now...

Famous last words  :grin:

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Re: What the hell?
« Reply #15 on: 24 February 2007, 16:27 »
The sysmptoms of my GTi were :-

Stalling when slowing, mainly at junctions. Seemed to happen when clutch was dipped at junctions/lights, though the stalling could be got round by dancing a little on the clutch/accelerator. The rev counter showed erratic idling at 800, dipping to 750.

Just bought some carb cleaner for a fiver. Took the hard pipe off on the side of the throttle box to check the condition of the butterfly and it was caked especially around the edges, where I believe the clearance is rather important.









This pic shows the edge of the butterfly after I scraped off a little gunk.

So, I cleaned it out with the carb cleaner. Sorry didn't take any piccs after clean.

After re-assembly, I took it for a test drive. I niticed that the idle was a lot more sharper at around 925 and it was stable. Took it for a drive, purposely finding as many lights and juctions as I could, and guess what. It did not stall. It has only been on a 15 minute drive but this used to be enough for it to stall umpteen times. I will let you know how it goes.

As I was cleaning it, I found the hose connected to the hard piping full of gunk. Can anyone tell me what the red circled box is in the following picture, and what the red arrowed hose does - this was full of gunk!!
I would like to perform a more thorough clean when I know what I am doing.




Hope some of this helps anyone out there with similar problems.

 JULEE
« Last Edit: 24 February 2007, 16:46 by JULEE »

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Re: What the hell?
« Reply #16 on: 24 February 2007, 21:06 »
Wow, my carb compared to yours is like 10 times worse, better have a good ol clean next weekend.

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Re: What the hell?
« Reply #17 on: 25 February 2007, 22:56 »
and it seems OK for now...

Famous last words  :grin:

and they aren't my last words... it stalled again a few times... now I've had a quick clean of the butterfly as described by Julee... can't say it looked 'gunked' though, but it hasn't stalled again yet...

BTW, I tried to get an ECU relay from GSF and another local parts factors and they said it's a dealer part... the dealers said last week that my car doesn't have an ECU relay... if I need it, I think a visit to the scappy is in order...

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Re: What the hell?
« Reply #18 on: 27 February 2007, 17:22 »
Julee,

the black plastic box is just a cover for the crankcase breather valve - i only know this because i have had to replace the breather hose that connects to it.  I believe its purpose is to draw oilgases/fumes away from the engine during running.  Mine too was fully gunked and so thoroughly cleaned it out with carb cleaner along with the throttle body and my idling problems have now gone, although mine wasnt cutting out or stalling.

Andy

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Re: What the hell?
« Reply #19 on: 28 February 2007, 10:44 »
and it seems OK for now...

Famous last words  :grin:

and they aren't my last words... it stalled again a few times... now I've had a quick clean of the butterfly as described by Julee... can't say it looked 'gunked' though, but it hasn't stalled again yet...

BTW, I tried to get an ECU relay from GSF and another local parts factors and they said it's a dealer part... the dealers said last week that my car doesn't have an ECU relay... if I need it, I think a visit to the scappy is in order...

It cutout again!... happy days... it's so frustrating because it's perfect all the rest of the time...  :angry: