Retro fit Xenon's

[Teutonic_Tamer]

He's right you know Sean!

Who? 

Shrodingers cat!!

Ahh, thanks.   

[Creepy Coupe]

Ok, without wanting to labour the point, I work for a Motorsport engineering Company, so IÂ’m more akin to oily bitÂ’s than lighting, so maybe some of my too many years in technical sales has come across in my thread.

But I can assure you I donÂ’t have any vested interest in any companies mentioned, I am quick to complain about poor workmanship, and feel itÂ’s only just to give praise where praise is due, and found the two firms mentioned to be worthy of such.

I did however stand around for five hours because M style really thought the fitting would be an hours worth, and so did HIDÂ’s 4U for that matter.

Like I said not waiting to rant on, but itÂ’s been nearly three weeks now, and more importantly near to 500 miles, without continuous flashing from other road users
We can go on about the wrong beam pattern as much as we like, but “in my application” they work well, and as I said I posted here because it’s GTI relevant.

While speaking to a member of another forum, who works for Halfords , who has shown an interest in HID kitÂ’s, which could be interesting.

[2007GTI]

You spoke to someone at Halfords did you?  That place is known in the industry as the worse possible place to take your car for anything!!!!

You have put it all in perspective for me now. 

Teutonic_Tamer, over to you......

[wantmygti]

Like I said not waiting to rant on, but itÂ’s been nearly three weeks now, and more importantly near to 500 miles, without continuous flashing from other road users
We can go on about the wrong beam pattern as much as we like, but “in my application” they work well, and as I said I posted here because it’s GTI relevant.

Not really the point if they are illegal is it?

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Strewth, this is just like my local bus service - last thing on this thread yesterday just after lunch, wait up all night, nothing turns up, then bu&&er me, three turn up in the space of fifteen minutes . . .      

OK, I exceeded the max length again, full replys to follow

Rgds

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Ok, without wanting to labour the point, I work for a Motorsport engineering Company, so IÂ’m more akin to oily bitÂ’s than lighting, so maybe some of my too many years in technical sales has come across in my thread

Hm... "Motorsport engineering Company", "technical sales", and "I work for": so you are connected with the industry in some way!  Perhaps this was a practice "dry run" for some marketing posts for your own company.  If you update your signature with all your details, & show a little more transparency to all, then you might (or not!) have got some different replys to your OP.

But I can assure you I donÂ’t have any vested interest in any companies mentioned

Hm... but you do work for a trading company, directly relating to the motor industry, and I've no doubt your company offers some kind of "services" (specific, maybe), to the general motoring public, and also to owners of VWs and members of this forum.

I am quick to complain about poor workmanship, and feel itÂ’s only just to give praise where praise is due, and found the two firms mentioned to be worthy of such

Very hollow, and utterly contradictory words.  You had initially posted your "concerns" on the legality of retro-fit HIDs, and you even suggested a work-around, for the MoT test.  You have subsequently been told that the fitment and use of your retro fit HIDs are utterly illegal.  You have also been told that the light produced by your headlamps are an MoT failure, and therefore illegal.  Yet you still do not condemn the place that fitted them, or the actual kit as supplied.

If it were me, innocently (unaware of the legal issues) asking for work to be carried out on my car, and subsequently finding out (a) the work IS substandard, (b) it has made my car illegal, (c) it WOULD invalidate my insurance, (d) it would lead me open to prosecution, (e) it could lead me open to financial ruin from any accident... and on, and on.  At this stage, I would be spitting blood and feathers, demanding the work be removed and restored to OEM standard, demanding a full refund, plus compensation, etc, etc.

To me, and I'm perfectly sure to others, your definition of "poor workmanship" would obviously include the actual "nuts and bolts" physical workmanship, but also any written literature supplied and oral advice from the supplier and/or fitter.  Whilst they may have snipped the loose ends of their ty-raps at a neat 90-degree angle, it is the whole picture, the whole issue of the total "service" which needs to be recognised and addressed.


To be continued . . .

[Teutonic_Tamer]

I did however stand around for five hours because M style really thought the fitting would be an hours worth, and so did HIDÂ’s 4U for that matter

But you stated they did know the front end had to come off, and would therefore be a lengthy job.  Come on, from your new admission that you work for a Motorsport engineering Company, you would be more than aware of the scope of the prep work needed!

Like I said not waiting to rant on, but itÂ’s been nearly three weeks now, and more importantly near to 500 miles, without continuous flashing from other road users

That is still a hollow statement.  Lets say you are driving in a queue of traffic at night, and a solitary car/truck/bus approaches from the opposite direction.  The vehicle approaching has a noticeable defect with their front lights, such as either: one headlamp not working/no lights on at all/incorrect use of front fog lamps/headlamp beams to high - how many people who meet that said vehicle will flash their own lights at it???  Now I've no doubt that the no lights at all would get quite an enthusiastic action from most vehicles it approaches, but for the three other scenarios, hardly any would flash!

We can go on about the wrong beam pattern as much as we like, but “in my application” they work well, and as I said I posted here because it’s GTI relevant

But they do NOT work well in your application!!!      What part of "MoT failure" can you not understand?  What part of "illegal" in terms of their fitting and use can you not understand?

While speaking to a member of another forum, who works for Halfords, who has shown an interest in HID kitÂ’s, which could be interesting

Care to name this other forum?

Ah, yes . . . Halfrauds, the centre of excellence, the pinnacle of automotive mechanical knowledge, the fountain of technical experience, the respect of their rigorous and unrivalled motor vehicle apprenticeships, their close links with the automotive manufacturers, their total access to manufacturer technical data and service literature, their Oracle like knowledge on road traffic law, their supreme confidence of their ability to communicate accurate information to their paying customers - NOT!!!!  I would not let them work on my bicycle!

Rgds

[Teutonic_Tamer]

You spoke to someone at Halfords did you?  That place is known in the industry as the worse possible place to take your car for anything!!!!

 

You have put it all in perspective for me now.

 

Teutonic_Tamer, over to you......

Will post #55 &#56 do?   

[2007GTI]

Yes, your replies blow this guy out of the water.  Job done.   

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Like I said not waiting to rant on, but itÂ’s been nearly three weeks now, and more importantly near to 500 miles, without continuous flashing from other road users
We can go on about the wrong beam pattern as much as we like, but “in my application” they work well, and as I said I posted here because it’s GTI relevant.

Not really the point if they are illegal is it?

Thats the worry, he still misses the most crucial issue! 

We all might as well pi$$ of the bow of a steaming ship!