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Offline Creepy Coupe

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Re: Retro fit Xenon's
« Reply #10 on: 29 January 2007, 16:04 »
I'd be interested in Sean's comments on this?

If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for this?

The kit was £250.00 plus fitting, in total £340.

Who's Sean?

 :sick: Ding, ding, ding - http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=52902.0 - find me if you can  :angry: .  Then read the thread and come back here.  Do tell us again if you still think your fu*&ing mickey mouse korean $hit is legal.

fx/on <drums fingers impatiently on desk> fx/off

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Re: Retro fit Xenon's
« Reply #11 on: 29 January 2007, 16:36 »
Well 100 miles over two nights and I have only been flashed once.

That means they are too high - a prosecutable offence under the Road Traffic Act.

IÂ’ve enclosed some photos, to try and illustrated the difference.

Tidy install of one control unit.

Illegal - no "E" type approval, as required under the Construction and Use Regulations.

At the weekend I drove down to my local MOT centre and asked the lads to check my dipped headlight beam pattern

Here's the N/S


Illegal.  Firstly no/invalidated "E" type approval, as required under the Construction and Use Regulations, and a failure under section 1.2.1 of the MoT Testers Manual "A missing obligatory headlamp".  Secondly, another MoT fail point under section 1.6 Headlamp Aim - there must be an acceptable beam pattern on the headlamp aim - (a) there is no clear definition of the break point, (b) there is no clear definition of the horizontal cut off, (c) there is no clear definition of the kick-up.

And again


Same as for the nearside, but with two additional failures: horizontal break not horizontal, and horizontal break above the prescribed level of 1.25%.

Sadly the O/S photo was ruined my glare from the glass cover, but trust me it was the same.

Irrelevent, the beam pattern between left and right is huge - no glass cover will produce that kind of distortion.  If it did, it would be a failure.

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You said it - couldn't have put it better myself!
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Re: Retro fit Xenon's
« Reply #12 on: 29 January 2007, 16:39 »
Have to say, I think Sean's argument makes good sense, enough to convince me. How could he sell a full headlight kit at £250 when the bulbs are £120 each? Also, why would VW bother with the likes of headlight washers if there was no valid need? Cost cutting would rule them out immendiately.

And why on earth would retro fit be subjected to lesser laws? Just does not make sense.
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Re: Retro fit Xenon's
« Reply #13 on: 29 January 2007, 16:41 »
I'd be interested in Sean's comments on this?

If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for this?

The kit was £250.00 plus fitting, in total £340.

Who's Sean?

 :sick: Ding, ding, ding - http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=52902.0 - find me if you can  :angry: .  Then read the thread and come back here.  Do tell us again if you still think your fu*&ing mickey mouse korean $hit is legal.

fx/on <drums fingers impatiently on desk> fx/off

Oh not another one of those forum gob sh!tes who hasn't got the balls to show their personal details, but likes to make their point with foul language, which is generally considered a sign of low intelligence.

Are you blind as well as stupid - my details are (a) in my sig, (b) in my profile.
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Re: Retro fit Xenon's
« Reply #14 on: 29 January 2007, 16:55 »
I think we may have found Teutonic_Tamer's bugbear!  :grin: :grin: :grin:

ROTFLMAO

Laney, you owe me a new keyboard  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:

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Re: Retro fit Xenon's
« Reply #15 on: 29 January 2007, 16:57 »
Are you blind as well as stupid - my details are (a) in my sig, (b) in my profile.

Sean - you may well be posting some very useful, important and helpful information, and everything you've said about Xenons may be correct - it certainly all sounds impressive! - and this is obviously a subject you feel strongly about, but you are very aggressive, if not downright rude and offensive, in the way you are putting this message across, so it's not surprising that you are putting some people's backs up.

If you wrote in a slightly less confrontational way (see Doc's post for examples), then people might be more ready and willing to take your advice.  :smiley:
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Re: Retro fit Xenon's
« Reply #16 on: 29 January 2007, 17:14 »
I'd be interested in Sean's comments on this?

If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for this?

The kit was £250.00 plus fitting, in total £340.

Who's Sean?

 :sick: Ding, ding, ding - http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=52902.0 - find me if you can  :angry: .  Then read the thread and come back here.  Do tell us again if you still think your fu*&ing mickey mouse korean $hit is legal.

fx/on <drums fingers impatiently on desk> fx/off

Oh not another one of those forum gob sh!tes who hasn't got the balls to show their personal details, but likes to make their point with foul language, which is generally considered a sign of low intelligence.

Are you blind as well as stupid - my details are (a) in my sig, (b) in my profile.

Normally IÂ’d respect someoneÂ’s knowledge of such things, but I canÂ’t believe youÂ’ve never done over 70 on a motorway or parked on double yellow lines.

Coupled with your foul mouth and general belief that you have a right to use foul language on a forum, which in my opinion is tantamount to swearing in someoneÂ’s face, leads me to think, your a person of low social skills, whoÂ’s incapable of making themselves heard in a debate, without such behaviour.

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Re: Retro fit Xenon's
« Reply #17 on: 29 January 2007, 17:33 »
Are you blind as well as stupid - my details are (a) in my sig, (b) in my profile.

Sean - you may well be posting some very useful, important and helpful information, and everything you've said about Xenons may be correct - it certainly all sounds impressive! - and this is obviously a subject you feel strongly about, but you are very aggressive, if not downright rude and offensive, in the way you are putting this message across, so it's not surprising that you are putting some people's backs up.

If you wrote in a slightly less confrontational way (see Doc's post for examples), then people might be more ready and willing to take your advice.  :smiley:

OK Alex, you may have a point, and I appreciate your concern  :shocked:.  I may come across strongly on this issue, but I consider it reasonable for my "enthusiastic" and "robust" answers as follows.

Firstly, the "blind and stupid" bit IMO was perfectly justified, as I have NEVER hidden my details.  In fact, the OP has hidden his details!

Secondly, there was a detailed thread on retro-fit Xenons not many days ago, which the OP could have searched for!

Thirdly, it is perfectly clear the OP is either spamming, or is on some kind of commission.  I base that opinion on (a) the OPs posting history from his profile, and (b) who would have the necessary MoT beam testers for the pictures he posted????

Next, the OP posted "At the moment their legal, but there is a grey area as to the futur of retro fit Xenon's, for factory fit they have to have headlight washers and self leveling, however there's no such rule for retro fit at the moment.

Swaping back to halogen bulbs on the Mk5 is a 10 minuet job.
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This is a statement from the OP stating they ARE legal, when they are not, the OP IS aware of the requirement for headlamp washers and auto leveling, but again wrongly quotes of no such requirement at the mo, and finally, states about swapping back to halogens in 5 minutes - why?  If his Xenons were legal, then why the need for such a statement - my guess is the OP does know they are illegal, and is merely trying to cover his ar$e, at the same time drumming up more sales/commission for future fitments!

If I have offended the OP, then tough - if I have offended anyone else, then I offer my appologies for the tone and manner for my expressions in this thread.

At the end of the day, it is only my opinion, based on my qualified experience, of both the law and motor vehicle maintenance.  If people wish to disagree, that's fine, it's a free country, where freedom of speech and expression is still legal fx/on <looks over both shoulders> fx/off.

If I can offer my utterly impartial advice, on any subject which I have a good knowledge of, then I am only too pleased to do so.  For me to stay silent on a subject which I do have knowledge of - well I wouldn't be being fair to the whole of the GolfGTI forum!
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Re: Retro fit Xenon's
« Reply #18 on: 29 January 2007, 17:48 »
Although Teutonic_Tamer did come on a bit strong, it certainly made his informative post noticed, which in my opinion is a good thing.

We have a great community on here and all I say is, lets keep it civil!   :smiley:
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Re: Retro fit Xenon's
« Reply #19 on: 29 January 2007, 17:54 »
but I canÂ’t believe youÂ’ve never done over 70 on a motorway or parked on double yellow lines.

 :rolleyes: Huh - where did that come from?  :sad:

Coupled with your foul mouth and general belief that you have a right to use foul language on a forum, which in my opinion is tantamount to swearing in someoneÂ’s face, leads me to think, your a person of low social skills, whoÂ’s incapable of making themselves heard in a debate, without such behaviour.

Kitchen and heat come to mind!  :wink:  :smiley:

Well - are you going to answer my concerns raised in my post #11 of 16:36:48, or are you going to run to mummy, and hide behind the curtains?  :huh:

BTW, who will you get to pick up your teddy bear - you know, the one you keep throwing out of your cot?  :wink:
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