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Re: DSG Change down
« Reply #20 on: 28 January 2007, 16:11 »
Done :)

Haa - thanks for that JV.  You had me worried, I was just wondering HTF someone called "jv" could edit my post.  Good job someone still at the helm whilst SWMBO drags me away from the 'puter!  :wink:
fx/on <looks over shoulder to see if she's lurking> fx/off  :sad:  :wink:

Intresting read this thread :afro:

Yeah, well there's naff all on the box, and it's a bit chilly outside!  :rolleyes:  :smug:
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Re: DSG Change down
« Reply #21 on: 28 January 2007, 16:19 »
Do me a favour, can you edit the VIN on your quote blocks in previous posts?

Whoops, I'm as bad as you!  :embarassed:  :embarassed:  :embarassed:  :embarassed:  :embarassed:

Good job the Admins are on the ball during my, ahem, enforced absence, ahem (SWMBO)  :laugh:  :grin:
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Re: DSG Change down
« Reply #22 on: 28 January 2007, 16:34 »
The RS4 is a lovely motor, was toying with that against the R32, but the cost was a tad more! RS6, well, thats for when i win the lottery!!

The GTI (the Wifes) is the daily drive for commuting, shopping etc.  My current S4 is mainly used for longer runs (due to the appauling urban thirst for V-power - 11mpg around town - owch!), usually down the south of France for a month at a time, and this will be replaced by the RS4.

I did consider the new S6 with the 5.2 V10 motor from the Lamborghini, and whilst the engine was to die for, the B-road handling was very poor, even compared to my current S4, and the tiptronic auto box is just utterly awful.  The older style RS6 also shares the same slush . . . I mean tiptronic auto box, and is really suited to high speed blasts down the Autobahns, rather than tight twistys, where the Golf and the S4 excell!

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Re: DSG Change down
« Reply #23 on: 28 January 2007, 18:22 »
Saw the RS4 on UK Gold Top Gear again today, the one where he races the climbers. Bloody lovely - however Im torn between that and the avant RS4. Not seen one in the flesh yet and not got 50K either!

Interesting to know about the RS6 box though


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Re: DSG Change down
« Reply #24 on: 28 January 2007, 18:34 »
Just been out in an S3 today (2.0 T  263hp quattro)  thats  a quick car, would leave my GTI for dead and im sure, but dont quote me on this it uses the GTI engine..............now wheres that chip ?

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Re: DSG Change down
« Reply #25 on: 28 January 2007, 19:38 »
Saw the RS4 on UK Gold Top Gear again today, the one where he races the climbers. Bloody lovely

Ahh - Top Gear at it's very best - now why has everthing suddenly turned rose coloured???  :drool:  :tongue:  :laugh:

however Im torn between that and the avant RS4.

Horses for courses and all that.  The RS4 saloon has a stiffer (due to the metalwork at the rear parcel shelf) yet lighter bodyshell than the Avant, giving everso slightly better acceleration.  The RS4 Avant would be better for shifting Dobermens or fridge-freezers at a rabid rate.

Yes, there is a typo up there, but it is quite appropriate.  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

Not seen one in the flesh yet and not got 50K either!

Ohh, get down to your dealer, they will have either an Avant or saloon on demo, and you just gotta sit in those bucket seats - the closest thing to being back in the womb!


Interesting to know about the RS6 box though

As the dealer discussed with me when I returned the S6, once you have tasted the nectar that is DSG, no other auto-box will seem nowhere near as good.  The conventional Audi tiptronic autobox is particularly $hit, especially when you compare it to the BMW 3 series autobox.

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Re: DSG Change down
« Reply #26 on: 31 January 2007, 10:16 »
Hi Lee

How did you get on at the stealers yesterday (Tuesday)??

Also noticed on an older thread - http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=50891.0, you still have some pics with your reg plate on show - you might wanna delete the front and rear images which show your plate, and just leave the rest, so we can still drool !  :wink:  :drool:  :smiley:

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DSG Change down
« Reply #27 on: 31 January 2007, 11:42 »
OK, my trip to Sennelager!

Well, an hour an a half journey turned into 2 and a half hours! I was fully expecting to get absolutely knowhere with any of my complaints, but had some good and some bad news!

Firstly, the DSG change down. The 'Technical' guy from VW took the car out around some twisties and to be honest, i did thee old 'holding on to the door' thing that the misses does when i go over 60mph! - not saying he was hanging about but bloody hell!!

Well, i had the car stealer rep in the back holding on for grim life, trying to translate this german and he knew his stuff alright! (not the car dealer - the german VW bloke!) After much up and down changing, wacking it into 1st at 30 plus other mad things, he deduced that it was all working fine.

We have recently spoken on here about 'confusing the gearbox' - well this is what i think he was getting at. I still argue the point that if you are manually going down through the box, then the selection of the lower gear should work fine. He tells me that the car assumes you will select the next GEAR UP, which is where the delay comes and the momentary surge of power as it realises that it is thinking to far ahead!

He checked to see if there was an ECU upgrade, but all is up to date, so there we are!

The dealer guy said in his ignorance, "does it happen in normal drive mode?" i said it is not so noticable as the changing down is later, so he said "well cant you just drive it in automatic then?"

He clearly did not take in any of what the german guy said about the technicality of the gearbox, the immense amount of money pushed into development of the DSG and the sheer advances it has!


Secondly, the Steering Issue.  After again doing many tests and yet more driving around scrubbing the tyres of a few more miles, he deduced there was an issue regarding the steering. I said that there was a noise coming from the brakes also on full lock and once we were back in VW HQ, he played me a sound file on the rather dated PC he had, which was exactly the noise mine made!

He said - "good yar" "we at VW know about this problem but we do not know what to do about it yet, so when we do, we will call you"

Obviously this was all in German so didnt understand a bloody word of it, but thats what the rather white looking dealer bloke looked like after his short test drive!

So thats the long and short of it - DGS: All Ok, Im basically being picky and asking to much and Steering: Yeh you got a problem, dont call us, we'll call you!

So, drove back along the Autobarn and nudged 160 following a BMW M5. Bloody wind noise was quite loud, so may bring that up when i speak to VW again!!!! (just kidding)



Id like to thank all that contributed towards my quest for a normal steering car and a finely tuned gearbox especially 'Teutonic_Tamer' for his expert knowledge.

Speak soon no doubt.

Drive safe (like me)
Lee


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