4 stud to 5 stud

[vw-bob]

i might have the opportunity to get a set of porsche phonedial alloys. a neighbour's friend has a porsche 944 that is just sitting rotting. so he is going to have a word with him and see if i could have a look at it  but the rims are 5 stud and ive got 4 stud. how hard is it to change and what is envolved??

[Stu.750]

As simple as buying some adaptors

 Like spacers with your 4 studs on it , then the 5 stud you need and the other side

[mase]

As simple as buying some adaptors

 Like spacers with your 4 studs on it , then the 5 stud you need and the other side

like the ones sold here:

http://www.performancealloys.com/alloy_wheels_adaptors.asp

the only thing u need to find out is the offset of the wheels, so that you know what width of adaptor you need, the offset should be stamped on the inside of the wheel and have 'ET' followed by a number...

[robheath]

Speaking from experience here... My golf mk3 has had GTI hubcaps put on it (4 to 5 stud). Now although it was done before I bought the car, I had alot of trouble changing the brakes when I needed new discs and pads, because it didn't all fit together like it should for a 1.8 . Unless there's an easier way then changing the hubs, try and find out the serial number for the brakes you'll need to fit the calipers, I ended up getting stung for labour because it took them 2 days to find a set that fit!

I know it's not much help on the technical side of things but just a heads up.

[mase]

rob:

these adaptor plates dont need a change of hubs, they are simply spacers which bolt onto the face of the hub, the only difference is that the side that bolts onto the hub is the right fittment for the car, while the side that the wheel bolts onto is different, in order to fit wheels from other marques to your car.

example being the 4x100 vw - 5x130 porsche adaptors.

if u were to look at the two side of the adaptor they would be different, one would have 4 holes 100mm apart, which the other side would have 5 holes 130mm apart. thats why they need to be at least 25mm thick, so there is enough space for the wheel both threads to take hold.

HTH

mase

[mk2mark]

To be honest I wouldm't trust those things on my car. If I wanted 5 studs badly enough I'd modify the hubs.

[vw-bob]

so are they not completely safe then??

[mase]

i would say they are.... IMO a company like H&R wouldnt sell them if they werent, and they are uber popular in dub circles when it comes to fitting bmw / porsche / merc wheels.

i know a guy who runs 20mm spacers on a 120bhp turbo cinquecento, and they are exactly the same design, bolt onto the hub, then the wheel bolts onto the spacer using standard wheel bolts.... i used to run 15mm ones on a punto engined cinq, and have never heard of problems with them bein unsafe.

[vw-bob]

cheers...i think i will have to have a word with my neighbour to let me have a look at them.. i will post pics when they're on

[monkeyalan]

i know a guy who runs 20mm spacers on a 120bhp turbo cinquecento,

120bhp in a cinquecento !
 theres probably more danger of the body shell crumpling under acceleration than the wheels coming off.