Santa Pod Sunday 25th,

[S11EPS]

Oh really?

Well seeing as you're clearly passionate about Audi's, lets use them as an example, in particular The 20v engine as used in the UR Quattro and the S2 coupe (both very quick cars).

Based on your comment above, its peak torque figure must be high, right? Do you know at what engine speed peak torque arrives?

I'll tell you.

1950 rpm

That would be 1000rpm above tickover, some 5250 rpm short of its red line and 4250 rpm short of its peak power figure.

So, how does that work then?

Like I said, you think you're right, I think I'm right, and we can go backwards and forwards quoting all manner of sh!t to prove our points.

So, in the interests of geting back to the original thread, lets just agree to disagree.

[golfvr6]

I can't comment if thats true. However the Audis you quote are turbo charged so they will maintain the peak torque for a lot longer than 1950rpm.
I am just quoting off the website you probably copied all your information off.
 

[jv]

getting back to the original topic, how about a trip to Santa Pod or maybe one of the show's this summer to put these challenges to the test?

could have a shoot-out at GTI Festival
http://www.golfgti.co.uk/viewfutureevents.asp?eventID=35

[golfvr6]

Can i ask where you get your info from?
The normally aspirated 20v engine doesn't reach its peak torque until at least 4000rpm.

[antgti]

Whats up GOLFVR6,,,,

You


                  YELLA?


The challenge was there, yet no responce.

[golfvr6]

If ya like!!!!  

[golfvr6]

Oh really?

Well seeing as you're clearly passionate about Audi's, lets use them as an example, in particular The 20v engine as used in the UR Quattro and the S2 coupe (both very quick cars).

Based on your comment above, its peak torque figure must be high, right? Do you know at what engine speed peak torque arrives?

I'll tell you.

1950 rpm

That would be 1000rpm above tickover, some 5250 rpm short of its red line and 4250 rpm short of its peak power figure.

So, how does that work then?

Like I said, you think you're right, I think I'm right, and we can go backwards and forwards quoting all manner of sh!t to prove our points.

So, in the interests of geting back to the original thread, lets just agree to disagree.

YES the peak torque is about 2000rpm, BUT the turbo charged petrol engine you quote also maintains this torque for most of the rev range.
SO its better to have your peak torque at a higher rpm, its OK to reach it quickly, its if the engine can maintain it.
 

[golfvr6]

Peak torque at higher rpm = More Power

HP=torque*rpm/5252

Hence petrol engines are better than diesel engines  

[S11EPS]

Can i ask where you get your info from?
The normally aspirated 20v engine doesn't reach its peak torque until at least 4000rpm.

The UR Quattro and the S2 coupe were turbocharged though, not normally aspirated. I didn't need to go on a website to find that information.

Like I have said numerous times now, I'm not interested in arguing, as neither of us will agree with the other. You continue to come back and argue, in which there is no point, as I'm not going to agree with you.

I present you with Physics, which you argue.
I present you with an true-life example of something that destroys your own comment, and you argue back again.

So what's the point? You seem insistent on arguing regardless of the information in front of you.

I always thought you were a bit blinkered to anything but the VR6 engine, but your insitance that your car still remains top of the game 12 years after its launch and the same period of Golf development, that isn't blinkered, its plain ignorant.

[golfvr6]

BOLLOX
I have just quoted the formula YOU QUOTED to prove that petrol engines are faster than diesels.
Enough said
Argument over