Golf GTI 16v v's Astra GTE 16v

[Dub-77]

Got the youth of today are missing out - the hot hatch just isn't the same any more !!

You dammm right there David      
What we got now a 1.2 16v sxi Corsa or like wise...    

[Dub-77]

Neaty have you driven a vxr??

[Daz...]

Sure, that's not like for like i guess but i can't help but grin everytime i drive mine in this state. Had a GPS confirmed 141 (on an air strip) before the red line too, but end of the peak power.

What gearbox have you got in your valver? It would have to be pretty much on the limiter to do that speed with the standard ratios.

I know this because mine showed me 135mph @ 7k in fifth gear...that was GPS speed aswell.

[Neaty]

sadly not, just going off what reports i have read and reviews i have seen, top gear for example.
Am I off the mark?

[Dub-77]

Am I off the mark?

Not at all my man, i've driven 5(i'm a vauxhall mechanic) of these monsters and I tell you they are QUICK in a straight line well thats if you can hold onto the TORQUE steer 
Yes they are quick but 240ps through a front wheel drive car... come on now lets get a little bit sensible a ?

Darren

[Neaty]

Am I off the mark?

Not at all my man, i've driven 5(i'm a vauxhall mechanic) of these monsters and I tell you they are QUICK in a straight line well thats if you can hold onto the TORQUE steer 
Yes they are quick but 240ps through a front wheel drive car... come on now lets get a little bit sensible a ?

Darren

ah good, i thought i was talking jibberish 

bet it makes ur day intersting though! I only got to drive Golf TDI 105ps, sh!troen C3's at my old work but then occasionally a civic type r.

[Dub-77]

Jibberish oh no.....

Yes it breaks up the day when you get to play in a Slightly faster car 

Darren

[Neaty]

do many of them come back in with problems?

[Dub-77]

No not yet reliable so far...

[Bluefox]

I know I've come in a bit late on this debate, but the Astra GTE mk1 would - dare I say it - give the mk2 a run for it's money in the handling stakes. Sure, the 1.8 engine in it was a bit underpowered, but a red top 16v mk1 against a mk2 valver... I've got to be honest, I wouldn't like to bet on the winner.

I used to be a vauxhall boy, up until recently - the mk1 Astra's were a serious piece of kit. Mk2's were good, just a bit soggy in terms of handling and it got worse from there on in.

Given the choice? A mk1 Astra with a red top would get me spending my money - the 1998cc vaux red top is the engine of it's time.

Yes, Len, that includes the Mi16