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Offline jeffyoung7

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Thinking of buying Golf V5 150bhp.Please advise me.
« on: 17 October 2006, 19:52 »
I am thinking of buying a Golf W reg(so 150 bhp) V5 for £6300.It is in excellent condition with only 27 k mileage.I am  not sure if this is is a good buy or not.Is it reliable or is the later one better? Is it worth less because it is 150bhp and not the upgraded 170 bhp? Is it uneconomical?
Also is a Bora 2.0 SE not much slower? I could get this for same money.
Please advise as I am really not sure what to do.Advise much appreciated-thanks.

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Re: Thinking of buying Golf V5 150bhp.Please advise me.
« Reply #1 on: 17 October 2006, 20:33 »
6300 should buy a later 170 or a 1.8T Gti - both better IMO.

The 2.0 may be nearly as fast on paper, but in reality it feels slow and is uneconomical


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Re: Thinking of buying Golf V5 150bhp.Please advise me.
« Reply #2 on: 17 October 2006, 21:54 »
get a 150pd-economical and fast!

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Re: Thinking of buying Golf V5 150bhp.Please advise me.
« Reply #3 on: 17 October 2006, 23:33 »
I don't believe the Mileage at 27k, W is a long time ago. Speedo change or some other reason. W started in March 2000.

Also, most say the V5 150bhp engine has old management system. No it''s not more economical than the 170bhp, it could use more fuel infact. Others say the V5 150 has other problems as well.  It is a cable operated throttle, not DBW. Best to spend the dosh on a later AUM or AUQ turbo 150 or the V5 170.

£6300 is plenty now 6 years and several months later. Is there real evdence that the car only did 4000 miles a year. If so the exhaust system is just about to go from acidic condensation from many tiny journeys.

Unless the car has been garaged, corrosion could be worse, because the car never did proper drying out journeys. Check all circumstances, and exact history.

Low mileage over a long period is not all good,

1) Original Tyres will be square from standing, side walls will start cracking - vulcanised, dont be fooled by plenty of tread. Test drive the car at 90 mph or more to feel the throw from stood tyres
2) Moisture in the brake fluid after 6 years - needs changing
3) Engine oil, unless synthetic, will go to emulsion - check oil service
4) Cam belt perishing due to age.
5) Coolant had it after 6 years - needs changing

Could be a deal - but check and check again.



Good luck.

Duncan
BMW 325 Coupe Sport, Lux pack, Alpina manifold & throttle bore - Cosmo
VW Golf Mk4 1.8 turbo - Silver - AUM / ko3s

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Thanks Duncan for your good advice.Btw the V5 I am considering is an automatic V5(I don't like driving manual) .Sorry I should have made that clear.
I agree that it is very low mileage for a W reg.I have to say that the log book has a sticker with a  data  code number in the front  of it from VW verifying the logbook is genuine(so the dealer says) and the car has been very regularly serviced.However you have rightly made me wary (best to be safe as it is a lot of money) and I will look into the cambelt etc.
It sounds like £6300 may also be high price for this car(though Parkers say it is about right).Interesting that my local VW dealer(Driftbridge in Epsom) can do me a W reg Bora 2.0(38k) for £6000 yet Parkers say it should be £4500!! I am getting really confused what to do.I will get a better warranty with the Bora from Driftbridge so maybe that is better option though it seems that a V5 is a much quicker car.
I don't know what to buy(advice welcome!) :
Golf V5 £6300   Bora 2.0 £6000
Cheapo options:Mondeo 2.0 W GLX reg £2600 or Honda Civic S reg £2400!!

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Re: Thinking of buying Golf V5 150bhp.Please advise me.
« Reply #5 on: 18 October 2006, 10:31 »
You have to have Automatic ?

Golf driving is all about niftyness and agility, the car turns on a sixpence. In turbo guise, with the much lighter Audi alloy engine, you get a very well built "go cart" with a roof and Recaro seats.

Jeff - We need to qualify your needs.

OK - in W reg, you get the old style alloys, not the Montreal 2's I believe, I may be wrong, depends on build date.

Any leather ? full air con and decent sound system ? Is the sound the same as the mid 2001 cars - please check.  I don't mean all that woofer rubbish, just good quality as is in the March 2001 turbo onwards. Test all functions. Check under the car for the plastic aerodynamic sump cover. On many golfs this get knocked off because some idiots mount the curb or a steep slope on 3 point turns

You get recaro seats ??? or not. wood effect is desirable in V5, also seats what colour are they ?

The Bora is a slug by comparison, much heavier, has same engine as a standard Golf 2 litre, and looks dated on that plate - Parkers is right for the Bora £4000 plus a bit for a good family car.  But you want a Golf mk4 5dr in auto. Never seen a Turbo auto - so that is out.

OK, just how long has that Dealer had the Golf V5 in stock ? check with the cleaners or someone else, don't ask the Salesman. If you want the car, and what colour is it - Black (nightmare to keep clean, but....) and Reflex Silver hold their money very well - green don't go there for resale. Other colours can look dirty as well with salty and dirty roads.

Mondeo W on 2 litre what are you thinking ? that is a piece of sh*te. Nobody wants an old Mondeo, drives like a sloppy builders van, zero panache.  Honda Civic on S plate, may be good for £2000 tops.

If you want the Golf V5, you are going to grind down that Dealer. He is going to give you a full no quibble 60,000 mile warranty at his expense, That means 60k when in your ownership, not for one year only. That way you drive to 90k without major expense. You are going to knock money off after you have checked all the other things out I have said and they have been DONE. You need evidence of all the fluid and new oil changes before purchase, which must include the Auto box. This needs a step by step approach, no weakness from you.

When all is done, taxed 12 months and MOT 12 months, or more money off.
Then you part with £5,500 no more. You keep the car for 5 years = depreciation £1100 per year.

Get back to me on this, I need to know all the particulars of that car.
Duncan
BMW 325 Coupe Sport, Lux pack, Alpina manifold & throttle bore - Cosmo
VW Golf Mk4 1.8 turbo - Silver - AUM / ko3s

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Re: Thinking of buying Golf V5 150bhp.Please advise me -To Duncan
« Reply #6 on: 18 October 2006, 22:31 »
Duncan,
Thanks again for your advice.To answer your questions:
I do only want automatic. I just love driving them-sorry to be a wimp.
All the details of the V5 are at the website of the dealer- if you scroll down you will see the V5:

http://chelseacar.co.uk/
It has climate control and 6 cd changer.It is dark metallic green by the way! The seats are standard seats by the look of it- black/gray interweave sort of thing(not recaros I think).No wood trim.Been on sale for at least 2 weeks I think-maybe more.He said all things will be serviced before I get the car(I will mention what you said).
He wont drop price at all as he says it is low for the car.He will only give 6 mths warranty covering major parts.
I am getting nervous about this car as you can see.The Bora 2.0  you said is a 'slug' so will prob avoid it although I actually prefer the interior to the Golf(the one I saw had black velour and was raven blue-nice looking).
I saw a 97 Honda Civic today in gerat condition(1.6 LSi with aircon/sunroof 58k) and dealer would do it for £2200-bit cheaper than the Golf!!
Please get back on the info I gave you-thankyou again. ofr taking the time to help me.

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Re: Thinking of buying Golf V5 150bhp.Please advise me.
« Reply #7 on: 18 October 2006, 23:20 »
Funny that, I thought it might be in that metallic green. I'd seen another Kensington based Golf in  that dark green pearlescent on a similar plate, but that one had non standard alloys.

The advert at Chelsea Cars says (a leather option) must have been an option when new to order ? The seats are standard Golf ones.

The car has the Montreal alloys though, but ordinary tyres by the look of them.

Let the Dealer wait for the time being.

Time for you to look at Auto Trader and qualify V5 prices in general. Stay with Golf V5 Auto, if that is what you want.

« Last Edit: 19 October 2006, 00:41 by New Duncan »
Duncan
BMW 325 Coupe Sport, Lux pack, Alpina manifold & throttle bore - Cosmo
VW Golf Mk4 1.8 turbo - Silver - AUM / ko3s

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Re: Thinking of buying Golf V5 150bhp.Please advise me.
« Reply #8 on: 18 October 2006, 23:50 »
Well, used Golfs are still bigger money in October than expected, the nearer you get to Christmas, the better a deal you can do. Many people won't buy a used car just before Christmas, they have other calls on their money.

I'd still say, leave the Chelsea dealer for a while. But it's down to you. If you need an Auto V5 now, you will have to negotiate on their terms.
Duncan
BMW 325 Coupe Sport, Lux pack, Alpina manifold & throttle bore - Cosmo
VW Golf Mk4 1.8 turbo - Silver - AUM / ko3s

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Re: Thinking of buying Golf V5 150bhp.Please advise me.
« Reply #9 on: 18 October 2006, 23:57 »
As I said in previous message the Chelsea V5 does have full history with a date number from vw supposedly verifying the logbook is real.
Please say why you thought dealer might not be that good-thanks again.