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Offline kappatango

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Coolant light and Temp
« on: 02 August 2006, 08:42 »
HI,

Last night I turned ignition on on my MK2 8v and ther coolant light started flashing.  I topped up with water to get home.

Where does the coolant go - in the header tank to the right of the engine??

I also noticed some sh!tty white stuff on the undersider of the radiator tank screw cap.....

This morning the engine did seem to run a little hotter than usual and the fan was running.....

I fear the worst....any ideas


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Re: Coolant light and Temp
« Reply #1 on: 02 August 2006, 08:59 »
sh!tty white stuff on the oil cap normally means head gasket, on the coolant cap it could mean oil cooler? they have a habit of corroding and oil seeping into the coolant.

yeah you fill up the radiator through the expansion tank and i assume thats the cap that the sh!tty white stuff is on?
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Re: Coolant light and Temp
« Reply #2 on: 02 August 2006, 09:05 »
I assume that the coolant goes into the same header tank as the radiator water....?? or is there a separate tank....

Sorry to be dumb - I am new to older cars and mechanics and desparate to learn.....

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Re: Coolant light and Temp
« Reply #3 on: 02 August 2006, 09:12 »
yeah it all goes in the same hole!
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Re: Coolant light and Temp
« Reply #4 on: 02 August 2006, 11:14 »
ok just been down to the car and the coolant light is still flashing.......but I have not lost any water on my 30 min drive to work.  Is there a way of draining some of the radiator header tank so I can add more coolant.  last night I topped up with water, befrore i realised it was a coolant problem ( :laugh:) so that would have made the mix ratio worse......

Is there a bleeder on the Rad header tank??

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Re: Coolant light and Temp
« Reply #5 on: 05 August 2006, 21:57 »
Right, the flashing light is just to tell you the level is low, it wont tell you if the mixture is incorrect.  The sender is inside the tank where you've been topping up the coolant, if the light is still flashing when the level is up to max then it means the sender or the wiring to it is shafted.

First thing to do is remove the electrical plug from the tank and bridge the 2 pins then turn on the engine, if the coolant light is still flashing then your problem lies elsewhere.  If the light goes out then you know there is a problem with the coolant sensor, or your coolant level is low ;)

If you have the older squareish shaped tank, then you can unscrew the sender from the top and check the pins, if they're filthy give em a good clean and see if that helps.  If its the newer ball shaped tank then the sender is part of the tank and cannot be replaced.

If you have some nasty white oily stuff on the bottom of the header tank then I suspect your oil cooler has gone, and this has gunked up the contacts on the level sender.  1st thing to do is either replace the oil cooler or bypass it for now, then clean out the coolant system.

Completly drain the coolant system, unhook as many pipes as you can and flush them through with a hose pipe till the water runs clear. Then refill the system with plain water and then chuck a cupfull of bio washing powder in the tank, then run the car for 5 mins.  While its running squeeze all the pipes & rev the engine now & again, then leave it to cool.  Drain the system, flush it all out again & repeat till you are satisfied all the oil is gone from the system.  Then fill the system with a 50/50 mix of water and antifreeze.  I always use G12 from VW or GSF, but the pink halfords stuff should be ok.

If the header tank is really dirty, try leaving it in a bucket of water with some bleach in it overnight. Then flush it all out with a hosepipe.  If that doesn't clean it up, you'll probably have to buy a new one!
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Re: Coolant light and Temp
« Reply #6 on: 07 August 2006, 08:30 »
HI Thanks for this - I have just moved house so havent got internet at home at mo  :cry:

I think it may be a sensor issue as sometimes the light does not come on - normally if I turn the ignition, wait 1-2 secs then turn over.

does this make sense??

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Re: Coolant light and Temp
« Reply #7 on: 07 August 2006, 09:01 »
lookin at your sig its an 'E' reg, so should be the earlier tank. I think you need a 24mm socket to remove the sensor if memory serves, handily this is also the same size as the nut holding on the steering wheel, so quite handy to have one this size in your toolbox :)

Keep an eye on your coolant, if you keep getting white oily gunk on the bottom of the cap then its almost definitly a dead oil cooler!
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Re: Coolant light and Temp
« Reply #8 on: 07 August 2006, 10:07 »
Being a newb.....is it easy to replace the oil cooler...and where do I get one from....I hate being new....   :sad:


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Re: Coolant light and Temp
« Reply #9 on: 07 August 2006, 10:20 »
http://www.gsfcarparts.com sell the coolers.

Its sandwiched between the oil filter & oil filter housing on the front of the block, it has 2 water hoses going to it :)
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