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[kuk sool]

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check this out event his site agrees with me

 http://www.golfgti.co.uk/viewfeature.asp?featureID=11

the 8v is slow and above 10 secs well only just  

[Bodhi]

erm just my two pence here but there was two versions of the mk3 gti..... errrrr  the 8v and 16v!!!!

the 16v did it in the 8.7 sec time and the 8v was over 10 secs!

the 8v is very slow and alwasy involves dropping down two gears to get to go it has no pull in forth at 50mph and absolutely no go in 5th from 70 mph if you need to get round anything on the carriage way quickly that is however does handle well due when you uprate everything and when it gets going it feels like a juggernought so get some good brakes

Scott

First of all, the number quoted in that article are for the 8v, as the 16v didn't launch until 1994 and didn't have 115bhp. The 8v gets to 60 a lot faster than 10seconds from personal experience. In fact, it sounds like something is deeply up with your car, as I've noticed the 8v doesn't have to pushed that hard to be the fastest thing on the road. Say for instance, leaving roadworks on the motorway doing 50mph. In mine, I leave it in top, bury the throttle and off it goes, digging deep and leaving everyone else who didn't bother changing gear well behind. I've timed 50-70 in top in my car, and it does it in 8 seconds dead, which is a pretty respectable time for a hot hatch (the 8v's torque serves it well here).

I also draw issue with people who rag on the Mk3's handling. It may be a tad softer than the Mk2 but it still grips tenaciously, the front end refusing to head wide at the slightest provocation (unlike the rubbery vague mess that is a Mk4), and the back end is even game for a bit of stepping out action, if you know what you're doing with it anyway.

[golfvr6]

Come on the 8v isn't that fast is it, the thing about 8v being torquey is a myth. The 8v engine does not have a lot of torque.

[jedi16v]

vr6 i hav to agree with you again mate . people say that the 16v is fairly slow to "get up and go " which i also think is crap i've driven both 8 and 16v golfs and the 16v does it for me everytime. pulls like F...............

[Cupra Turbo]

the 16v did it in the 8.7 sec time and the 8v was over 10 secs!

the 8v is very slow and alwasy involves dropping down two gears to get to go it has no pull in forth at 50mph and absolutely no go in 5th from 70 mph if you need to get round anything on the carriage way quickly that is however does handle well due when you uprate everything  and when it gets going it feels like a juggernought so get some good brakes

Have u EVER driven an 8v???

no pull in 4th at 50mph??? what the hell r u smoking? ...

5th gear has no pull over 70mph??  WTF??? it does almost 125Mph!!! it easily pulls at 70Mph... hence overtaking at that speed.

I think if u have driven an 8v then theres two things: -

1: U aint got a clue how to drive properly
2: U had a knackered old shed with 2000000000 miles on it...

I can outpace a VTR and thats a 9.5sec car to 60mph from zero. and Ive got a hella good 8v.

I agree with Budhi... he's spot on.

oh and

there was two versions of the mk3 gti..... errrrr  the 8v and 16v!!!!

Heres a star ... *

well done for noticing what we've been asking about for 10years!

[Overseer]

i have yet to nuke an 8v.. and they always look embarrased to me.. prob like me and the vr6ers lol

the 16v has bags of torque.. (thats a standard measure u know )

the car is *still* eager to pull in 5th at over 130.. (errm.. lol) i've yet to find the top end.. at motorway speeds (80+) i've out accelerated everything similar thats had a go..

if you cant afford / or wont pay the insurance for a vr6 then get a 16v (like i id), if u just want the gti badge.. get the 8v


if you're stuck between the varying opinions here go and try both.. the come back and tell everyone


btw from the kinda mileage you're talking, but without mention age... for a 16v you'll be looking at about 4500 quid (which is exactly what i paid for mine after i knocked em down )

[golfvr6]

Right you lot these are the official figures from the mk3 golf owners handbook.

2.0 GTI 8v   0-62mph   10.9 secs
2.0 GTI 16v 0-62mph     8.7 secs

[kuk sool]

thanks golf vr6 for your support but these lot seem to not understand black and white figures there living in dream world

and erm by the way ive driven 3 different mk3 gti 8v's when looking for the one ive got and and all of them were the same on performance!

[Pimpster]

Hate to rain on anyones parade but i've got an 8v (mint - 97/R plate - 68k miles with FSH so i know its up to power) and its performance is, well, dire compared to what you expect of a GTI. On its own its ok, but having had some pokey motors its pretty slow as far as i'm concerned.

I would say 0-60 in my experience between 9.5 & 10.5 depending on air temperature and the mood of the thing. mostly its around 9.8. But then we would be assuming my speedo is 100% right which it probably isnt (most run 7% fast).

Its ok in 1st and 2nd. Bit poor in 3rd and 4th and not too bad in 5th. Dont have many problems between 70&100 but over 100 its a bit asthmatic.

At the end of the day it only has 115bhp and isnt that light so it is never going to set the world on fire.

As much as i'd like to defend the car it is, and i've said this before, more like a GL than a GTI. I figure because i have driven other quick cars and it isnt that great in comparison. its ok, but not fast. nowhere near it. my mate has a 300bhp+ Sunny GTI-R. Now thats fast.

[Bodhi]

The thing is, whilst in a straight line the 8v might not be the fastest thing on the road (and I'm sure the fact that a 300bhp Sunny is faster than it caused the boys at Wolfsburg a sleepless night or two) it can keep up with theoretically far quicker cars. I can keep my father's 320d honest - and I know for a fact that is not a slow car. VTR's and 306 XSI's are easy to keep station with when the going gets twisty, and you are safe in the knowledge you're unlikely to end up in a hedge, unlike any VTS's being driven hard enough to lose it.