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Offline knobby

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Re: Welded fron big bumper nuts!
« Reply #10 on: 28 April 2006, 00:35 »
there bl00dy huge bolts... If you break one of them, id take the hoist back, your be able to lift the engine in with your bare hands.  :laugh:

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Re: Welded fron big bumper nuts!
« Reply #11 on: 28 April 2006, 08:22 »
Hm....

Dunno whether I am gonna take the bumper off now...

Ive got some things lined up tho, like a new suspension kit ( should be coming next week) and some g60 arches (again next week, fingers crossed.

I think the front bumper will have to come off to fit the arches?  :undecided:

I havent soaked the top of the bolts yet, only did underside.... one of the bolts is fooked abit I think anyway......

Thanks for the help lads!

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Re: Welded fron big bumper nuts!
« Reply #12 on: 28 April 2006, 10:30 »
Take the headlight off on the side where the siezed bolt is, you can get much better access that way, as said soak the top of the nut with proper penatrating oil, WD40 is ok, but its not as good as the proper stuff.

Then get a big breaker bar on it, if you havent got one yet you'll never get the engine out I tell the, its an essential piece of kit :grin:

You'll never get the driveshafts off if you don't, the hub nuts are uber-turbo-nutter-bastard tight! (assuming you need to take them off completly?)
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Re: Welded fron big bumper nuts!
« Reply #13 on: 28 April 2006, 10:56 »
unbolt it from the box and let it drop out the bottom?jack the fronmt of the motor up as high as you can get it and slide it out from underneath you can do it this way on your own and put it back the same way on your own if needed but i would advise you get somebody to share the weight with you :grin:
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Re: Welded fron big bumper nuts!
« Reply #14 on: 28 April 2006, 12:54 »
As already stated WD40 is ok but its best to get a proper penetrating oil like PLUS GAS, quite expensive but you dont need that much. Also you get a good high of the smell  :smug:

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Re: Welded fron big bumper nuts!
« Reply #15 on: 28 April 2006, 14:06 »
Jack it up a bit at front, and use one of those extendable tyre irons/wheel nut wrench's. Gives much better torque done this before to get mine off after a soak with wd40.

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Re: Welded fron big bumper nuts!
« Reply #16 on: 28 April 2006, 16:16 »
Cheers guys,

Hacent soaked the top yet, so I will do this tonight.

I havent got a big breaker bar, think I will get one.  After the driveshafts have been taken off I presume the next thing to remove is the exhaust onto the engine.... How do I get in bhind there to remove it?

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Re: Welded fron big bumper nuts!
« Reply #17 on: 28 April 2006, 16:48 »
Right, this is something I tackled the other day!  Whichevcer method you go for, coat all the nuts/studs with a ton of plus gas or whatever a couple of hours before you start :)

You have 2 choices, either take the 8 bolts holding the manifold to the head, or the 6 bolts holding the manifold to the downpipe.  If you go for the 6 downpipe bolts, be aware you'll probably shear one or more of the studs!  The 3 closest to the engine are easy to get to from underneath once you unbolt the driveshaft heatshield from the engine, the 2 on the outside near the bulkhead are tricky but doable from here.  The middle one is a bit of a pain, as there aint much room.  What we did was remove all the zaust mounting rubbers, and pull the head forward (the head was unbolted from the block) and use a good spanner with a length of tube on it, that did the trick.  In your case you can pull the whole engine forward.

If you decide to remove the manifold from the head (in this situation this is what I would do) Then remove the inlet manifold first to give you room then take off the manifold nuts.  use a good 6 point socket, and make sure you hammer it on fully, go steady and most if not all of the nuts will come out complete with the studs attached.  If you are unlucky and one rounds off, get a dremmel on it and chop the nut in half.  Then get 2 nuts on the stud & remove it.  If you're very unlucky and the stud shears off, chop it down as glose to the head as you can, then drill it out starting with a fine drill bit & work your way up, then use a tap & die to clean out the thread.

Then all you need is 8 fresh studs from VW, and a set of copper nuts.  Put it together with plenty of copper grease too :)

The third option is to unbolt the entire subframe, remove the front shocks, stering U/J & zaust mounts and roll the engine forward on the front wheels.  The danger with this is you might shear off the subframe captive nuts, which require cutting holes in the footwell and welding back into place  :shocked:
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Re: Welded fron big bumper nuts!
« Reply #18 on: 28 April 2006, 18:45 »
or you could get underneath and undo you down pipe from the exhaust,go back to the top and take off rocker cover and undo all 10 ofthe head bolts.make sure all pipes and wires are dissconnected.dont forget to block the fuel lines with a bolt and jubilee clip!!you will need to remove the air box aswell.then you will be ready to remove the head with the exhaust manifold and inlet manifold all still attached its alot easyier to undo things when you can see what youre doing??oh befor i forget cambelt tensioner will need undoing and the cam belt will need to come off.
there are quite a few ways of skinning a cat(removing an engine)???doing it this way makes it easeir to remove the block as it isnt as columbersum and heavy.either that or just take your bonnet off get a strap round it and lift it straight out after its seperated form the box.its all down to preference and caperbility. :grin:good luck
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Re: Welded fron big bumper nuts!
« Reply #19 on: 28 April 2006, 20:46 »
I have picked up my engine lifter crane, just need to get some chains in the morning.

I still couldnt get the two bumper bolts off from the driver side  :sad:

I was thinking of getting under the car and removing the exhaust pipes to the bottom end. 

Where are the petrol pipes which I will need to block.  Will fuel go everywhere if I dont?