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Offline Neaty

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Re: Which GTi to buy?
« Reply #20 on: 29 April 2006, 00:47 »
yea 16 valve mark 2's all the way woo hoo!  :laugh:

sorry i am sitting on the fence here!.........well i was!

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Re: Which GTi to buy?
« Reply #21 on: 29 April 2006, 02:15 »
Definately a MK2 is the way to go. Give me an 8v Mk2 GTi over a Mk3 anyday

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Re: Which GTi to buy?
« Reply #22 on: 29 April 2006, 08:26 »
Hi Guys

Ok my first car was a Mk2 GTI 8v, loved it to bits, sold it then wanted another Golf so went out and brought a Mk3 GTI 16v, as I thought yeah its a Golf it will be ok, Was disappointed to say the least, Mk3's are too heavy if you ask me. Yes the 16v was quick but it was juicy too, plus i had loads of eletrical problems with mine, the engine ran sweet when it would start  :grin:.  If you have your heart set on a  Mk3 buy a 16v, I used to fly past my mates 8v. Dont think the 8v is even a sub 10 second car to 60 is it?

I sold the Mk3 after about a month of owning it and brought another mk2 GTI 8v, The mk2 8v was far more fun to drive than the mk3 16v. And on collecting the Mk2 I drove up in the mk3 and then drove the mk2 home while a mate drove home the mk3, it was a mini race all the way home, the only time the mk3 had the advantage over the mk2 8v was 80MPH+.

My Opinion of the Mks
Mk1 - The  start of something Great
Mk2 - The Best a Man can Get!!!  (Sorry, Han, Dinx, Woman Too   :wink:)
mk3 - Alll Started to go wrong here...
mk4 - Should have never been released. An insult to the GTI name. Slow, Heavy, Ya gran would own one..
Mk5 - The GTI name getting back on track, Just a shame there so expensive!


Buy a Mk2 GTI 8v or 16V... You will not be disappointed with either of those choices....

Cheers

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Re: Which GTi to buy?
« Reply #23 on: 29 April 2006, 08:40 »
Yeah mk2 all the way mate ive had a go of a mk3 their nowhere near the same quality and a mk2 looks cool slammed on the floor

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Re: Which GTi to buy?
« Reply #24 on: 29 April 2006, 10:22 »
You could always look elsewhere....

What about the Mk3 Astra SRi/SXi?  What about a Pug 306 XSi?  Both are better handling than the Golf mk3 (Probably mk2 also), maybe not as reliable (306) but a much newer car for the money.

I agree with some of the comments above about the Golfs development, the Mk2 looks Ok but sells for more money than its worth IMO.  The Mk3 did get lardy compared to the Mk2 and the Mk4 looks terrible and is very heavy.  The Mk5, now that is a good looking and great performing car.  I think VW did start to lose their way with the 3, got worse with the 4 and got their fingers out with the 5 probably after seeing the success of the Leon Cupra/R.

Its an evolutionary path, the owners were growing up (well, some...), families getting bigger, more and more emissions and safety legislation kicking in (which is a good thing) so the cars had to grow to accomodate these things.  The new passat is bigger than a VX Omega, jeez, thats a very big car.

What will happen when all the decent Mk2's have run out?  It won't be that long, they are getting old/thrashed/crashed and pretty soon will be as rare a sight as a Mk1.  My guess is it will go one of 2 ways - The Mk3 will be lauded as the greatest as the Mk2 is now and will sell well or loads will jump ship and buy the Leon Ibiza/Cupra.

Does any of the 3 pages above help you, not in the slightest, it tells you why each one of us has bought the car we have.  Its your money, your own individual needs/wants to cover and its your choice.  All cars will do roughly the same job, pick the one you like, don't be afraid to look elsewhere and buy one  :wink: If you have the money, why not stick with the blue oval and get a 2.0 Focus??  They will leave the Golfs upto and including the Mk4 for dead on handling (in your price bracket), be cheap to insure, garage in every big town, good safety, modern design, decent performance etc etc.

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Re: Which GTi to buy?
« Reply #25 on: 29 April 2006, 10:39 »
Don't mean to get b!tchy but got a bit to say about the last post....   :shocked:

I'd be very surprised if a Mk3 Astra sri/sxi would out handle a Mk2 Golf, and I used to own a 306 pug, they are characterless cars. Ford Focus, ummm, yes a very reliable runner for the family but are we buying Mk2 Golfs for there reliablity no i think not, I think if you buy a Mk2 Golf its because you wanna be part of something special, I dont like to use the word Cult but Mk2's have a great following, with a superb bunch of people ready to help out in the event of a problem. You only have to look at the amount of large events across the country to see how much this following is supported, I guess for the love for a classic well made German car.  I'd love to see an Astra Forum, home of the Chav i expect.. Where do all the Astra/Pug owners meet, Max Power events...

As I said I don't mean to get b!tchy but you got my goat!  :angry:

 


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Re: Which GTi to buy?
« Reply #26 on: 29 April 2006, 11:50 »
Don't mean to get b!tchy but got a bit to say about the last post....   :shocked:

I'd be very surprised if a Mk3 Astra sri/sxi would out handle a Mk2 Golf, and I used to own a 306 pug, they are characterless cars. Ford Focus, ummm, yes a very reliable runner for the family but are we buying Mk2 Golfs for there reliablity no i think not, I think if you buy a Mk2 Golf its because you wanna be part of something special, I dont like to use the word Cult but Mk2's have a great following, with a superb bunch of people ready to help out in the event of a problem. You only have to look at the amount of large events across the country to see how much this following is supported, I guess for the love for a classic well made German car.  I'd love to see an Astra Forum, home of the Chav i expect.. Where do all the Astra/Pug owners meet, Max Power events...

As I said I don't mean to get b!tchy but you got my goat!  :angry:

Didn't come over as b!tchy, I think the angry emoticon was over the top though.

The Mk3 Astra will out handle it.  The Golf Mk3 (16v) has been independantly tested and out handles the Mk2 (16v), the Mk4 (1.8T) out handles the Mk3 (same test), the Astra is up there with the Focus on handling, tried tested and proven in many magazines to out handle the Mk4, that is a direct read across as being better.  The Mk4 Golf being described as stodgy, the leon/toledo would be a better bet for handling.

The 306, characterless?  Not sure I agree, but they are just opinions after all, but definately better handling.  I had 2 306's, and XSi and a GTi6 so I too can speak from experience.  WhatCar tested the 306 XSi 8v against the Mk3 8v Golf (and the BMW Compact) and the 306 won that.  The 306 S16 (12 bhp less than the GTi6) was tested against a Mk3 16v in autocar, very close but the 306 still came out on top.

If it gets your goat then you're getting wound up over nothing really, its a car at the end of the day, its not life and death.  I was merely trying to give other options, there are other cars on the road besides the Golf, you don't have to belong to a forum to like a particular make after all.  Liking a particular model doesn't "pigeon hole" you as a certain type of person, maybe in the eyes of others it might.  The problem is with the person doing the pigeon holing in that case.

It might be interesting to read how other car enthusiasts view Golf GTi owners....

Forgot that one, 318Ti BMW???

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Re: Which GTi to buy?
« Reply #27 on: 29 April 2006, 11:56 »
Mk2 Golf's are a way of life!  Never just a car.

Enough said!

Knobby....

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Re: Which GTi to buy?
« Reply #28 on: 29 April 2006, 13:48 »
Having driven a few other cars, I'd have to say that each I was glad to be back in my VW.
I always preferred driving my Mk2 1.8 GL to my parents Mk3 Astra. and even last week driving that Astra was horrid and was glad to be back in my own Mk4 Polo, which handles and drives so much better.

I also drove a Mondeo (TDi and V6)and a Vectra (TDI), and although the Vauxhaul was better, I still preferred my Mk2.

But everyone has their own opinion.


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Re: Which GTi to buy?
« Reply #29 on: 29 April 2006, 14:30 »
just to add my 2pence worth...... once a vee dub fan, always a veedub fan.... IMHO

you can LIKE other cars for sure, ( certain porkies, ferraris etc even bmw m5's  :evil: turn my eye all the time) but once you find a brand that your happy with/love then nothing ever really changes your mind :undecided:

everyone has their own opinion i guess, and every car is different....but as for telling someone what they should drive...........well only one person can decide that really. :undecided:

good luck with whatever you choose dude just pick a good 'un  :smiley:

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