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Offline Terrible1

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SORRY
« on: 10 January 2006, 21:27 »
Been a while i know (got involved with an xr2t) anyway looking to do something with the golf now although just gathering ideas at the mo. she is a 1.6 driver

I'm thinking of putting an 1800 head on either off a 1800 driver or maybe a scirocco (did they use same engine) what carb should i use.If the scirocco did use the same engine did that have more of an output. Bigger carb. What problems am i likely to come up against chaging the head. It should be a stright swap shouldn't it i mean the engine i've got is an 1800 just with a 1600 head restricted. What BHP am i getting at the moment as it is standard.

Idealy i'm looking for around 130 brake and wish to achive this by getting an 1800 head rebuild it maybe get it flowed and help it breath more easier then bolt the bugger back on.

Is this realistic.  :huh:


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Re: SORRY
« Reply #1 on: 10 January 2006, 21:38 »
won't swapping the heads make zero difference. the capacity was all down to the bottom end?

may aswell drop a 16v lump in and get 139bhp straight away. pick up those engines for £150. :D
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Re: SORRY
« Reply #2 on: 10 January 2006, 21:49 »
Of course it will make a difference. I don't want to change the engine over as that invloves getting engines out and i haven't the faciltys to do that.

I've been looking on ebay and the Scirroco seems to either have a 1600carb(gt) an 1800card or an 1800 injection (GTI) please bare with me as i am not use to VW's

What differnce is there between the 1600 scirroco head than my 1600 driver are they the same bhp/carb.

Does anyone know what the standard bhp is for a 1600 driver 1990

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Re: SORRY
« Reply #3 on: 10 January 2006, 21:53 »
theres a valver in parts for sale thats £50!

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Re: SORRY
« Reply #4 on: 10 January 2006, 22:02 »
72bhp according to Parkers
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Re: SORRY
« Reply #5 on: 10 January 2006, 22:39 »
Hate to put a downer on your idea, but I'd say 130bhp out of a 1.6 driver engine is completely unfeasible, if not impossible. If it can be done it'd cost so much money, an engine swap (even paying someone to do) would probably be alot cheaper. Like the man says, drop in a 16v GTI block and head for around 130 - 140 instant. Or an 8v (around 112 bhp) and go from there.

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Re: SORRY
« Reply #6 on: 11 January 2006, 10:39 »
buy a gti :grin: youll have to change EVERYTHING :shocked:

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Re: SORRY
« Reply #7 on: 11 January 2006, 10:48 »
Cheers JV

Correct me if i'm wrong but the 1600 is the same block as an 1800 therefore change the 1600 head you've got an 1800 engine. 130bhp from an 1800 engine should be possible....?

Is the 1800 driver not the same as the gti with out the I injection aka driver GT lol

replace my current head with a new flowed gti head leave the injectors in adn run it through a carb.

Any ideas

Keep them coming but no more engine swaps please :drool:

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Re: SORRY
« Reply #8 on: 11 January 2006, 11:21 »
You need to get 1.8 cranks and pistons in order to go from 1.6 to 1.8. The engines are the same apart from that.

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Re: SORRY
« Reply #9 on: 11 January 2006, 13:07 »
I thought the bore size of 1.6 and 1.8 block was same, just Crank and conrods were different, but rubjonny told me the Pistons are different aswell.  :undecided:
So if you wanted to go bigger diameter you would either need to change Pistons, Crank, and Rods or change complete block to 1800?!   :smiley:
An 1.8 8v Head will fit on the 1.6 Block but it will be hard to achieve 130 BHP from that.
Twin Carbs would prob get you close to 130?  :cool:  :evil:

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