Stage 2 clutch.

[rwleigh]

Anyone got any experience of these twin friction material RTS clutches?

Look good to me and making me consider stage 2.

https://rtsperformance.co.uk/product/clutch-kit-rts-6006/

[Riv151288]

I went for the organic clutch which RTS do and single fly wheel after i had issues with the standard clutch! Cannot fault the clutch kit if im honest but i know the twin friction kit will handle a bit more torque over the one i purchased

[rowlers]

Interested, I'll be looking to upgrade sometime soon too.
I've read mixed reports of whether you need to replace the flywheel too, I never have in the past with older cars (mk2 16v).
The RTS website says it MUST be fitted with the sachs DM flywheel?

Thoughts?

[Mott19]

Anyone got any experience of these twin friction material RTS clutches?

Look good to me and making me consider stage 2.

https://rtsperformance.co.uk/product/clutch-kit-rts-6006/

I'm 3,000ish miles in to having mine fitted and have been running stage 2 software for the last 1,000. I've had no issues with this clutch so far.

I replaced my flywheel with a Sachs one, as per their recommendation. When you're shopping about for this you'll see that you can have a Golf R or GTI (is38 or is20) flywheel. Dimension wise they're identical and the "Golf R" one is £50-100 cheaper depending on where you shop.

I don't think you can get away with not replacing it unless your current flywheel has little to no heat spotting. You'll also want to replace the release bearing whilst you're getting all this done, it's £50odd quid in parts and the stock one has to come out anyway. I also know that if you have issues with this clutch RTS have a history of blaming it on the flywheel. So it's best to replace it anyway to cover yourself on that front.

This clutch also has a really extensive breaking-in period, being 1,000 miles. Alternatives like the RTS paddle clutch are only around 400 and some Sachs ones are as low as 250. So keep this in mind whilst you're shopping.

[Riv151288]

The RTS kit i brought came with a single mass flywheel as its the dual mass flywheels that gives up first on the manual golfs

Also replaced the plastic slave cylinder with a metal

But all is well and ive been running it for about 7000 miles

[rwleigh]

Thank you for all your replies, I'm now wondering if i might not be better going for the SMF option with a paddle clutch.

Any down sides to daily driving a SMF or a paddle clutch?

[clubsport]

Not a Golf, but I have experience of an SMF & paddle clutch on another car, great for trackdays, but I wouldn't consider it on a daily driver.
There is much more gearbox noise & "chuntering" with the SMF and the paddle clutch I have used had heavy duty springs, so the pedal was harder with a more on/off clutch operation.

Just to add the dual mass flywheel, normally has a gel like substance between the two plates, this reduces vibration and noise from the transmission, obviously an SMF doesn't have this. The main advantage being lighter weight so the engine can spin up quicker and obviously more reliability from degradation that can happen tom a DMF

If that is what you are looking for then fine, it's not ideal if you ever encounter a slow M25.

[Mott19]

I agree with Clubsport on this. I've been in 2 MQB cars with SMF fitted and they both had really noticeable chatter. I think if you had a very loud exhaust it would drown it out - but it would send me up the wall.

Paddle clutches are great once you get use to them - but like they have said, it takes a lot of effort compared to a normal clutch. Perhaps not suitable if you sit in traffic.

[rwleigh]

So i might be better off going for the Sachs option then?

https://www.sachsperformance.com/en/clutch-kit/performance-clutch-sachs/performance-clutch-kit-vw-golf-7-gti-002352-999502e

With their DMF.

https://www.sachsperformance.com/en/clutch-kit/zf-sachs/flywheel-vw-golf-7-gti

Any other manual MK7 owners out there gone stage 2 or 3 care to chip in?

[Mott19]

https://www.lsgperformance.co.uk/collections/vw-golf-gti/products/rts-clutch-twin-friction-clutch-kit-mk7-golf-r-gti-and-clubsport?variant=31469316046948 Is the kit I got, if you decide on the twin-friction

If you're looking to buy the flywheel separate, then Custom VAG Parts is looking like the cheapest from what I can see (and a small business to): https://www.customvagparts.com/product-page/ea888-3-2-0-tsi-sachs-dmf

Not sure on the Sachs ones personally. I know a few people running some variant but otherwise I'm useless for that. Hope someone else can fill you in on them.