Avon calling!

[SRGTD]

Wasn’t the software in the current generation of VAG’s MQB and MEB based cars the first to be developed by Cariad? (Cariad is an automotive software company and a 100% subsidiary of VW group).

I read that the decision to move software development in-house was seen as a way to remove dependency on third party software houses and to help control costs. If so, then with the benefit of hindsight, maybe it wasn’t the smartest move.

[WelshGolf]

Wasn’t the software in the current generation of VAG’s MQB and MEB based cars the first to be developed by Cariad? (Cariad is an automotive software company and a 100% subsidiary of VW group).

I read that the decision to move software development in-house was seen as a way to remove dependency on third party software houses and to help control costs. If so, then with the benefit of hindsight, maybe it wasn’t the smartest move.

Yes as far as I know, everything up until 3 ish years ago was developed by someone else, someone big like Panasonic or something but they moved it all internally and messed it up.

[SRGTD]

Wasn’t the software in the current generation of VAG’s MQB and MEB based cars the first to be developed by Cariad? (Cariad is an automotive software company and a 100% subsidiary of VW group).

I read that the decision to move software development in-house was seen as a way to remove dependency on third party software houses and to help control costs. If so, then with the benefit of hindsight, maybe it wasn’t the smartest move.

Yes as far as I know, everything up until 3 ish years ago was developed by someone else, someone big like Panasonic or something but they moved it all internally and messed it up.

Apparently, some scheduled premium vehicle launches from Audi, Porsche and Bentley also had to be moved back because of software development delays. I understand that it was the Cariad software issues that cost previous VW CEO his job.

[Adam T7]

Software companies develop Software, Car manufacturers manufacture cars.
Adam Smith sussed this out in the 18th Century, basic concepts haven’t changed.

[BillSan]

Adam Smith's lesson gets lost sometimes and car manufacturers couldn't resist the urge to do it themselves when they saw the bills from (and the profits being made by) software companies.   Greed is bad, in this case and most others.

Also should have paid the bucks to allow time for thorough development and testing.  Reputational damage will be severe.

[simonwhite2000]

Ive had the SOS message again this morning. Drove to work, turned the car off, started it back up and no SOS.

[M6TT F]

Even though my dealer is just up the road, I can’t be bothered going through the process of being without a car for a day, for them to say, either nothings wrong, or a part needs to changed that’s on back order. So just putting up with the intermittent bongs.

[Exonian]

Even though my dealer is just up the road, I can’t be bothered going through the process of being without a car for a day, for them to say, either nothings wrong, or a part needs to changed that’s on back order. So just putting up with the intermittent bongs.

At least get it logged with them in case you still own the car out of warranty.

Book it in, get a loan car, pick up yours later in the day and realise how much better your car is than the loan car… 

[M6TT F]

Even though my dealer is just up the road, I can’t be bothered going through the process of being without a car for a day, for them to say, either nothings wrong, or a part needs to changed that’s on back order. So just putting up with the intermittent bongs.

At least get it logged with them in case you still own the car out of warranty.

Book it in, get a loan car, pick up yours later in the day and realise how much better your car is than the loan car… 

Nope, it will most likely be gone in the next few months. If not, I’ll extend the warranty. Spent ages looking at options to swap, and there’s nothing that offers similar performance, or  floats my boat for similar money,

[Exonian]

Options are indeed limited if you want something similar bhp/££££ but with working software.

Decent discounts on T-Roc R’s atm and A35 AMG’s but…