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Offline AGB

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MKI to MKVII
« on: 23 January 2023, 16:01 »
Came across an interesting site recently called Carsized.com

Quite enlightening having a play with generational sizes and looking at how the form of cars has changed.

Below is a MKI Golf sized relative to a MKVII. If you want to see a vehicle dwarfed, pit a Fiat 500 from the 1960's to a GMC Yukon, Cadillac Escalade, Hummer EV or Audi Q8!

There are some cars where perception of size is determined by the interior feel. Most people think that the Cayman is a lot smaller than a modern 911 but there is very little in it.


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Re: MKI to MKVII
« Reply #1 on: 23 January 2023, 16:29 »
It amazes me that a mini is still badged “ mini”
The mini countryman is a tank
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Re: MKI to MKVII
« Reply #2 on: 23 January 2023, 19:07 »
^^ its practically Qashqai size

My mk1 fitted in my garage with the engine on a stand in front of it, you could work on the whole car, the mk7 I have to move about just to change a wheel on one side.

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Re: MKI to MKVII
« Reply #3 on: 23 January 2023, 20:29 »
@AGB; that is an interesting website. Just spent a while comparing different cars.

I have a 1980’s ‘standard’ size single garage and my 2020 current shape Polo GTI+ fits and I’m able to get in and out of the car but there’s not too much space to spare (I’ve got padding on the garage wall so I don’t damage the edge of the driver’s door). I also had a mk5 and mk6 Golf in the past, and it was a bit of a tight squeeze getting in and out of those cars in the garage.

Cars really have grown in size over the years; I remember reading that the VW up! isn’t much smaller than the mk1 Golf :shocked:. My Polo GTI+ is a B segment sized car and is pretty much the same size as a mk4 Golf, which was considered to be a C segment sized car in its day.

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Re: MKI to MKVII
« Reply #4 on: 23 January 2023, 22:33 »
Good find AGB.
That must’ve taken a bit of work to collate.
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Re: MKI to MKVII
« Reply #5 on: 23 January 2023, 23:34 »
@AGB; that is an interesting website. Just spent a while comparing different cars.

I have a 1980’s ‘standard’ size single garage and my 2020 current shape Polo GTI+ fits and I’m able to get in and out of the car but there’s not too much space to spare (I’ve got padding on the garage wall so I don’t damage the edge of the driver’s door). I also had a mk5 and mk6 Golf in the past, and it was a bit of a tight squeeze getting in and out of those cars in the garage.

Cars really have grown in size over the years; I remember reading that the VW up! isn’t much smaller than the mk1 Golf :shocked:. My Polo GTI+ is a B segment sized car and is pretty much the same size as a mk4 Golf, which was considered to be a C segment sized car in its day.

I must confess to having spent longer on it than I expected!  :grin:

I've always thought the Polo isn't far off the size of a MKI Golf. When I've had a Polo as a loaner from the dealer, it has always felt bigger than it looks. Other cars shrink around you even though they're the same dimensions.

We're kindred spirits, I have a very small margin of error to get the cars in the garage and have a wall bumper as well as marker strip to align. It's like a roll of sticky 400 grit sandpaper in black/yellow hazard pattern. Added some to the wall for different cars because if they have parking sensors, they go wild but I've gotten used to not having them on the cars I drive. I'd recommend the hazard tape - makes it easy to see and align the cars in mirrors. Ended up cutting a little extra to give me stop marks which align to the position of the wing mirror.




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Re: MKI to MKVII
« Reply #6 on: 23 January 2023, 23:38 »
Good find AGB.
That must’ve taken a bit of work to collate.

No doubt but once the comparison engine is built, loading records and an image from a database table probably isn't that difficult. Ensuring the source data was accurate was probably a pain in someone's life. I've been impressed with how comprehensive it is - 860K+ comparison combinations for car models since 1908!
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Re: MKI to MKVII
« Reply #7 on: 24 January 2023, 10:16 »
Came across an interesting site recently called Carsized.com

Quite enlightening having a play with generational sizes and looking at how the form of cars has changed.

Below is a MKI Golf sized relative to a MKVII. If you want to see a vehicle dwarfed, pit a Fiat 500 from the 1960's to a GMC Yukon, Cadillac Escalade, Hummer EV or Audi Q8!

There are some cars where perception of size is determined by the interior feel. Most people think that the Cayman is a lot smaller than a modern 911 but there is very little in it.



I like this website, used it quite a lot when I was trying to decide if I wanted to change my GTI, to try and get an idea of what I thought might feel "too big".

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Re: MKI to MKVII
« Reply #8 on: 24 January 2023, 10:49 »
@AGB; that is an interesting website. Just spent a while comparing different cars.

I have a 1980’s ‘standard’ size single garage and my 2020 current shape Polo GTI+ fits and I’m able to get in and out of the car but there’s not too much space to spare (I’ve got padding on the garage wall so I don’t damage the edge of the driver’s door). I also had a mk5 and mk6 Golf in the past, and it was a bit of a tight squeeze getting in and out of those cars in the garage.

Cars really have grown in size over the years; I remember reading that the VW up! isn’t much smaller than the mk1 Golf :shocked:. My Polo GTI+ is a B segment sized car and is pretty much the same size as a mk4 Golf, which was considered to be a C segment sized car in its day.

I must confess to having spent longer on it than I expected!  :grin:

I've always thought the Polo isn't far off the size of a MKI Golf. When I've had a Polo as a loaner from the dealer, it has always felt bigger than it looks. Other cars shrink around you even though they're the same dimensions.

We're kindred spirits, I have a very small margin of error to get the cars in the garage and have a wall bumper as well as marker strip to align. It's like a roll of sticky 400 grit sandpaper in black/yellow hazard pattern. Added some to the wall for different cars because if they have parking sensors, they go wild but I've gotten used to not having them on the cars I drive. I'd recommend the hazard tape - makes it easy to see and align the cars in mirrors. Ended up cutting a little extra to give me stop marks which align to the position of the wing mirror.





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Re: MKI to MKVII
« Reply #9 on: 24 January 2023, 11:03 »
I've always thought the Polo isn't far off the size of a MKI Golf. When I've had a Polo as a loaner from the dealer, it has always felt bigger than it looks. Other cars shrink around you even though they're the same dimensions.

We're kindred spirits, I have a very small margin of error to get the cars in the garage and have a wall bumper as well as marker strip to align. It's like a roll of sticky 400 grit sandpaper in black/yellow hazard pattern. Added some to the wall for different cars because if they have parking sensors, they go wild but I've gotten used to not having them on the cars I drive. I'd recommend the hazard tape - makes it easy to see and align the cars in mirrors. Ended up cutting a little extra to give me stop marks which align to the position of the wing mirror.

Seeing your garage, I think I need to go out in the cold and clean / tidy mine :grin:.

Quite a few people I’ve spoken to are surprised at the size of the current Polo. Here it is compared to the mk4 Golf. Most of the Golf’s extra size is in the length of the bumpers rather than the actual car body. The Polo is also wider than the mk4 Golf.




2020 Polo GTI Plus; Pure White, DSG (because they all are)
Gone but not forgotten;
2016 Polo GTI; Blue Silk
2011 mk6 Golf GTD; Carbon Grey
2007 mk5 Golf GT (2.0 170bhp TDI version); Deep Black Pearl
2002  mk4 Golf GTI (the 150 bhp diesel version); Deep Black Pearl