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Re: Hot Hatch World Cup
« Reply #10 on: 22 December 2022, 08:01 »


This was my Clio. Great to drive to drive on short journeys. But it wasn't reliable, and was a PITA on a longer trip.



Is that a 182?
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Re: Hot Hatch World Cup
« Reply #11 on: 22 December 2022, 10:25 »
Is that a 182?

Looks like a 172 cup to me.
I had a 197 with the cup pack, was great fun but long distances according to the Mrs were like some kind of SAS interrogation technique due to the fidgity ride and noise.
I think it did about 20mph per 1000 rpm in 6th so at 80 it was doing 4000rpm...........


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Re: Hot Hatch World Cup
« Reply #12 on: 26 December 2022, 19:07 »

It seems the Golf GTI MKI has made it through the group stages.

Classic GTI (MK1) vs peak GTI (MKVII)

I'm putting my money on the Delta Evo taking it.
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Re: Hot Hatch World Cup
« Reply #13 on: 27 December 2022, 10:01 »

It seems the Golf GTI MKI has made it through the group stages.

Classic GTI (MK1) vs peak GTI (MKVII)

I'm putting my money on the Delta Evo taking it.

Just seen the list of the last 8. Without any bias, my money would be firmly on the 205.

The winner will be the one with greatest impact and you would expect that to be reflected in a twitter poll 30 or 40 years on.

It’ll be a two horse race, the 205 or the mk1 golf as the 2 cars that influenced the genre most, the rest won’t stand a chance.

Here’s the list-

Peugeot 205GTI
🇩🇪: VW Golf GTI Mk1
🇬🇧: Mini Cooper JCW R53
🇮🇹: Lancia Integrale Evo
🇯🇵: Toyota GR Yaris
🇰🇷: Hyundai i30N
🇪🇸: SEAT Leon Cupra R
🇺🇸 : Ford Focus RS Mk1


Incidentally, I saw a beautiful red alfasud in Belbroughton, Worcestershire yesterday. Love to see the classics out and about, and I don’t remember seeing one of those before.

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Re: Hot Hatch World Cup
« Reply #14 on: 27 December 2022, 10:08 »
Just seen the poll finishing in a few hours is hyundai i30n v 205gti.

That’ll be a similar result to a football match between the two nations!
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Re: Hot Hatch World Cup
« Reply #15 on: 27 December 2022, 10:18 »
The BMW 130i should be on the list IMO.

Sure it doesn't have the traditional transverse engine FWD layout of most hatches, but a lovely normally aspirated and tuneful straight six, and rear drive more than makes up for that.
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Re: Hot Hatch World Cup
« Reply #16 on: 31 December 2022, 11:31 »
Am I the only one still following this?

I love these hot hatch GOAT discussions, pointless though they are.

So it’s semis- 205 v GR yaris and mk1 golf gti v integrale.

Interestingly only one current hatch.

This particular contest is a popularity one. There were- I think- around 60 000 205 gtis registered new in the UK during its long production run- and many people will have owned one or had a memorable ride in one. I think that’ll swing it.
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Re: Hot Hatch World Cup
« Reply #17 on: 31 December 2022, 14:42 »
The 205 will win imo.
A good mate of mine loved his 205s and Visas but then again he owned a Citroën specialist garage. So ive driven and fixed most versions   :lipsrsealed:. I liked the 205 XT/XS over the GTIs i felt they were a more balanced less nose heavy.
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Re: Hot Hatch World Cup
« Reply #18 on: 31 December 2022, 17:44 »
The 205 will win imo.
A good mate of mine loved his 205s and Visas but then again he owned a Citroën specialist garage. So ive driven and fixed most versions   :lipsrsealed:. I liked the 205 XT/XS over the GTIs i felt they were a more balanced less nose heavy.

I wanted one- a 205 XS- as my first car- because I knew I couldn’t insure a gti.
Vivid memories of test driving one with my dad 30 years ago.
Didn’t buy it in the end- a 309 xsi came up for sale so I bought that.

Fantastic little cars the 205. I love them.

And like the mk1 golf, a design classic.
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Re: Hot Hatch World Cup
« Reply #19 on: 01 January 2023, 17:15 »
The 205 will win imo.
A good mate of mine loved his 205s and Visas but then again he owned a Citroën specialist garage. So ive driven and fixed most versions   :lipsrsealed:. I liked the 205 XT/XS over the GTIs i felt they were a more balanced less nose heavy.

I wanted one- a 205 XS- as my first car- because I knew I couldn’t insure a gti.
Vivid memories of test driving one with my dad 30 years ago.
Didn’t buy it in the end- a 309 xsi came up for sale so I bought that.

Fantastic little cars the 205. I love them.

And like the mk1 golf, a design classic.

It's looking like the 205 might take the win overall. Currently ahead by 10% with a day to go.

I predicted the Integrale when it was clear that modern was not the 'theme' and see it's in the final with the 205.

I'm afraid my vote went with the Integrale based on my experience driving a period rally car, not a road car.


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