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Offline Brenbo

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Anyone Want an EV Golf GTI?
« on: 26 November 2022, 06:59 »
More speculation about the Golf GTI  names continuing as EVs:

https://www.thedrive.com/news/next-gen-vw-golf-and-gti-will-keep-names-but-become-evs

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Re: Anyone Want an EV Golf GTI?
« Reply #1 on: 27 November 2022, 09:10 »
So long as it’s identifiable as a proper Golf rather than one of those limp ID efforts I’m all for it.
Darned if I’d be able to afford one at today’s prices but it would be nice to see the GTI move with the times and stay on top of its game rather than becoming an archaic anachronism.

Abarth look to have done a great job with the 500e so no reason why VW can’t do a slightly bigger and more grown up Golf EV in a similar vein.
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Re: Anyone Want an EV Golf GTI?
« Reply #2 on: 27 November 2022, 16:44 »
I miss the KISS approach to interiors, it was always the golf's approach compared to rivals up until the mk8. Let the golf go back to what it was, simplistic ergonomically sound well screwed together interiors and let the ID range be the high tech bells and whistles range. I have no problem with a GTI with an EV powertrain as long as it isn't just a trim level but has the performance and distance range to justify having the GTI badge.
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Re: Anyone Want an EV Golf GTI?
« Reply #3 on: 09 January 2023, 20:55 »
No.

I've owned a Tesla Model 3 performance, and a Polestar 2 with the performance pack. Both fast, both incredibly boring to drive after you get over the acceleration. Heavy and don't corner well.

They should just come up with a new name for whatever it is.
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Re: Anyone Want an EV Golf GTI?
« Reply #4 on: 09 January 2023, 21:41 »
I’m really not sure where this EV malarkey is heading. It’s ok for the smug e-tron drivers round here who clog up the roads in their behemoths on the school run and have charging points on the driveway. What about the 2/3 of the city who live in high density terraced housing? Can’t see how the charging is going to work for them. Not that many will be able to afford an EV anyway. And what about long distance driving? Christmas Day, anyone?!

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Re: Anyone Want an EV Golf GTI?
« Reply #5 on: 09 January 2023, 21:48 »
A clear and simple ‘No’
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Re: Anyone Want an EV Golf GTI?
« Reply #6 on: 06 February 2023, 09:38 »
I’m really not sure where this EV malarkey is heading. It’s ok for the smug e-tron drivers round here who clog up the roads in their behemoths on the school run and have charging points on the driveway. What about the 2/3 of the city who live in high density terraced housing? Can’t see how the charging is going to work for them. Not that many will be able to afford an EV anyway. And what about long distance driving? Christmas Day, anyone?!

Will EV's become like the Betamax when someone invents a proper VHS alternative to clean motoring that doesn't rely on a charging network?
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Offline BillSan

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Re: Anyone Want an EV Golf GTI?
« Reply #7 on: 06 February 2023, 10:01 »
Solid-state batteries could be a partial answer, but we are still at least a decade away from having those working and the cost (as with everything) could well prohibit the majority for decades after that.

Reliability, Robustness, Range and Recharge times are the key things and solid state batteries could offer great improvements in some of these.
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Re: Anyone Want an EV Golf GTI?
« Reply #8 on: 06 February 2023, 10:29 »
Will EV's become like the Betamax when someone invents a proper VHS alternative to clean motoring that doesn't rely on a charging network?

Well there has been for a long time the fight between BEV and Hydrogen.... clearly at the moment Hydrogen isn't happening BUT there is a lot of energy company investment in Hydrogen...

Hydrogen exists in two forms - Blue and Green....

Blue is made from fossil fuels.... which could be clean if you can execute carbon capture.

Green is made by using electricity to split water... assuming your electricity source is zero carbon the whole thing is zero carbon - which is no different to BEV really.

Of course Hydrogen would be a perfect analog for petrol road transport - same fuelling times as petrol. Same ranges too based on the limited number of models available today.

Additionally, Hydrogen could be easily used for aircraft, trucks and ships... unlike batteries.

But its all down to making the Green hydrogen a viable concept as it uses tons of electricity - which needs massive zero carbon base load on the grid..... which means probably nuclear, which everybody hates and takes decades to build just one for a cost of gazillions.

The major oil giants are just waiting for this Green Hydrogen moment.

If that can happen, expect to see your local petrol station deploying hydrogen tanks and nobody driving BEV's.... the VHS moment.
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Re: Anyone Want an EV Golf GTI?
« Reply #9 on: 06 February 2023, 10:44 »
I see personal car ownership dropping off and hiring cars becoming the norm. Cars are becoming unaffordable new and in a few years the left over ice cars will be too unreliable and evs not good enough with their worn out batteries for the more budget minded motorist. I think we'll all have to drive Morris Minors and MGBs as they will be the easiest to keep running!
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