The new Golf R 20 Years edition

[Sean G]

Had a look myself at those for sale and as said they are mostly 2022 dealer demos with no extras on these except for Lapiz blue paint
Only one car which is a private sale seems to be under list though
Few dealers are offering cars that are due to arrive shortly for sale some with options on them
Think a lot of the dealer demos will have a higher Apr rate than if you were buying a new one

[Exonian]

^^^^ higher APR and you’d have to pay road tax (which would have been included in the OTR costs of a new car)

[AndyGTI]

I see with the Budget the VED from April will be £570 ouch. (180 + 390) but that is after first year. Obviously first year has gone up as well.

The prices being quoted by dealers as previously mentioned are pretty mad. Hoping they drop fir anyone after a R20

[monkeyhanger]

I see with the Budget the VED from April will be £570 ouch. (180 + 390) but that is after first year. Obviously first year has gone up as well.

The prices being quoted by dealers as previously mentioned are pretty mad. Hoping they drop fir anyone after a R20

That luxury tax needs revising - £40k does not buy a luxury car these days, and why should a £40k Golf GTI with options cost the same as a Bugatti Chiron to tax?

That threshold needs to be up at £55k and then the fairest way would be that above the threshold you pay 0.5% of RRP annually in enhanced VED - let the £1m car owners pay £5k a year.

[SRGTD]

I see with the Budget the VED from April will be £570 ouch. (180 + 390) but that is after first year. Obviously first year has gone up as well.

The prices being quoted by dealers as previously mentioned are pretty mad. Hoping they drop fir anyone after a R20

That luxury tax needs revising - £40k does not buy a luxury car these days, and why should a £40k Golf GTI with options cost the same as a Bugatti Chiron to tax?

That threshold needs to be up at £55k and then the fairest way would be that above the threshold you pay 0.5% of RRP annually in enhanced VED - let the £1m car owners pay £5k a year.

It’s not been referred to as a luxury tax on gov.uk website for some time - it merely refers to vehicles with a list price of more than £40k. From gov.uk website;

Vehicles with a list price of more than £40,000
You have to pay an extra £355 a year if you have a car or motorhome with a ‘list price’ (the published price before any discounts) of more than £40,000. You do not have to pay this if you have a zero emission vehicle.

You’re preaching to the converted on a car forum when you suggest the £40k threshold ought to be increased. Realistically, I can’t see this happening any time soon (if ever) though, as it’s a very convenient way for HM Gov to generate revenue. And as car manufacturers price increases push more new car list prices above the £40k threshold it’s an increasing revenue source, provided new car registrations continue at current levels or greater than current levels.

[monkeyhanger]

I see with the Budget the VED from April will be £570 ouch. (180 + 390) but that is after first year. Obviously first year has gone up as well.

The prices being quoted by dealers as previously mentioned are pretty mad. Hoping they drop fir anyone after a R20

That luxury tax needs revising - £40k does not buy a luxury car these days, and why should a £40k Golf GTI with options cost the same as a Bugatti Chiron to tax?

That threshold needs to be up at £55k and then the fairest way would be that above the threshold you pay 0.5% of RRP annually in enhanced VED - let the £1m car owners pay £5k a year.

It’s not been referred to as a luxury tax on gov.uk website for some time - it merely refers to vehicles with a list price of more than £40k. From gov.uk website;

Vehicles with a list price of more than £40,000
You have to pay an extra £355 a year if you have a car or motorhome with a ‘list price’ (the published price before any discounts) of more than £40,000. You do not have to pay this if you have a zero emission vehicle.

You’re preaching to the converted on a car forum when you suggest the £40k threshold ought to be increased. Realistically, I can’t see this happening any time soon (if ever) though, as it’s a very convenient way for HM Gov to generate revenue. And as car manufacturers price increases push more new car list prices above the £40k threshold it’s an increasing revenue source, provided new car registrations continue at current levels or greater than current levels.

I think there'd be far less ongoing resentment to this grossly unfair tax (from the point of view that why should a £41k car cost the same as a £1m car to tax) if it was all built into the original purchase price. It would grate on the original owner initially and then be forgotten. Fast forward to year 6 and that £41k car might be now worth £15k but still costing well over £500 to tax (probably £700 in 6 years time!). That's a kick in the bollocks as a reminder every year.

[BillSan]

What you're all asking for is a progressive tax system where the richer people pay more than poorer people.  Sounds fair to me but it's not what we've in the UK and unlikely to change under the current government.

[willni]

If it helps a 16 year old R32 Golf is now £695 to tax

[Snoopy]

Mzybe not be too long  before they just do road pricing. Those that use the roads and create the most polution may pay the most. As for electric cars with the new electric  smart meters they can start to charge more at peak demand and at differnt household demand levels.

[monkeyhanger]

Probably not be too long  before they just do road pricing. Those that use the roads and create the most polution may pay the most. As for electric cars with the new electric  smart meters they can start to charge more at peak demand and at differnt household demand levels.

The trouble with EVs is that those with a driveway and a charger will be at a huge running cost advantage vs those who don't, when not driving beyond the range of the car That needs addressing. Imagine an exclusive club that allowed rich people to pay 50p a litre at the petrol pumps?

Those in terraced houses and flats in a BEV will be clobbered at external chargers and road charges.