The new Golf R 20 Years edition

[fredgroves]

Lots of reasons here:

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/features/opinion/tim-pollard/new-car-prices/

The reason for the prices are because that's how they are playing the market - lower volume, higher margins. Its hardly damaging VW - profits have doubled despite volumes being way lower.

Once one of the giants starts down this path (and VAG are THE giant), they all follow...

Also, if the "future" is BEV and the market is prepared to pay 45k+ for a BEV (and most seem to live at that price and upwards), why sell an ICE car for any less...

[BanksyGTI]

I been thinking this for months: the ‘chip’ delays and lack of post-covid stock are playing out very nicely for VW and industry. It forces people into speccing their car rather than choosing the next base model off the transporter. Spec = profit. VW can get away with building the cars whenever they want as the most profitable time for them

[BillSan]

As ever with market forces, if one supplier sees an opportunity to use surplus capacity to mass produce a standard spec car (whatever that spec is) then they may make a killing by selling it at a lower price than the rest.

Don't know when that will happen or who that supplier will be though.

[Exonian]

The Volkswizard view:

https://youtu.be/nInO3i1byKM

[GtiJames]

The Volkswizard view:

https://youtu.be/nInO3i1byKM

RacingLine stage 1 sounds interesting a little look on there instagram suggests 395bhp for the clubsport.

£720.

[BillSan]

I'd be interested if my car was on a PCP rather than a lease. 😭

[Exonian]

400 bhp in a front driver on summer tyres would be interesting on the slippery salted and gritted roads right now!
Maybe next year when my warranty is about to lapse unless I decide to either take one of those all in plans from VW (warranty, service, breakdown) or retire. The latter far more appealing even though it means I’d have to sell the car & house to buy a hovel somewhere, but I’m good with that.

Mind you, around my neck of the woods I’m usually either stuck behind a line of dawdling pensioners, a caravan or a tractor. The IQ lights aren’t set up for oncoming tractors by the way, they sit too high for the blacked out section and get the full force of the blazing LED’s! It doesn’t impress the farmers much.
 So maybe a FWD 400 bhp hatch is a bit overkill. I’m off to look at second hand Hyundai i10’s instead… if ya can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em.   

[Exonian]

Ooohhhh look at this https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/new-hyundai-i10-hatchback-10-mpi-se-5dr-ps12349-at-nationwide-cars-4049601?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=position_7_button&utm_campaign=2022-12-17 bye everyone!



But back on topic, it’s interesting to see the small dynamic changes VW have made to the engine on the 20 Years and possibly gearbox mapping too.
I wonder if these things will transfer to another model once the production run ends.

[willni]

400 bhp in a front driver on summer tyres would be interesting on the slippery salted and gritted roads right now!

 So maybe a FWD 400 bhp hatch is a bit overkill. I’m off to look at second hand Hyundai i10’s instead… if ya can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em.   

Where do you use 400bhp in a fwd golf? Chris Harris has alluded to the A45s (415bhp) being too much and that the A35 (306bhp) is a much better drivers car. In the rare occasion you do get a clear road, you'd run out of road very quickly or be over a hedge with the DSG box.

Unfortunately golfs and their counterparts have outgrown the twisty roads, but can't compete with the bigger stuff. Which I why the Fiesta and i10 get a mighty review, small, just enough power and all the toys you need in a modern car as standard.

[Exonian]

Quite patently (because of the thread) a 333bhp 4wd is the answer to everything!

A 400 bhp FWD GTI is useable if you do track days or the like (skillz permitting) or use the right roads. Be totally wasted on me though….

… although I wouldn’t say no