2023 Mk8 facelift rumours already?

[jon87]

New article from today which suggests the 8.5 GTI launching next year will have mild hybrid power too. Also, seems like it's been delayed with the article quoting the facelift is launching in the second half of 2024.

More time to save up for it I guess!

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/2024-volkswagen-golf-mk85-no-manual-new-hybrids

[SRGTD]

New article from today which suggests the 8.5 GTI launching next year will have mild hybrid power too. Also, seems like it's been delayed with the article quoting the facelift is launching in the second half of 2024.

More time to save up for it I guess!

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/2024-volkswagen-golf-mk85-no-manual-new-hybrids

Not only more time to save up, but (hopefully) more time for VW to ensure the software’s fit for purpose and glitch / gremlin-free, as it should’ve been when the mk8 was launched .

[BanksyGTI]

Like most things I don’t believe that article is *entirely* accurate. My friend who happens to be a VW salesman has received info direct from a VW dealer convention presentation in Germany that outlined the 8.5 Golfs and GTIs/Rs.
For the Performance Golfs, there was no mention of hybrid tech (GTE notwithstanding).
From memory, the following GTI/Clubsport info was mentioned:
- Buttons BACK on steering wheel
- Bigger screen a lá ID.7 with illuminated sliders and better graphics etc
- Meatier front grille in gloss black
- Slimmer headlights and illuminated VW badge. Sharper rear light detailing
- ‘Monza’ style diamond cut alloys like mk5 GTI
- Metal GTI badge on the door a lá new ID.4/5 GTX
- Seats were the same but ‘options’ are being discussed
- GTI gets more power, CS the same
- Akrapovic as part of CS performance pack

That’s about it from what I can remember. Typical VW facelift stuff really

[Tony Jazz]

Hello Banksy GTI; did you friend happen to the know the expected UK price? would be interested if its not far north of 40K but guess its bound to be.
Then there's always the obligatory 18 month wait of course.......!

[fredgroves]

New article from today which suggests the 8.5 GTI launching next year will have mild hybrid power too.

LOL like the Mk8 had?

They dropped the 24v hybrid GTI because it was too complicated/expensive. I'd say the same thing is even truer now with problems they haven't fixed with the Mk8 still and the end of ICE looming large.

[Carlosfandango]

New article from today which suggests the 8.5 GTI launching next year will have mild hybrid power too.

LOL like the Mk8 had?

They dropped the 24v hybrid GTI because it was too complicated/expensive. I'd say the same thing is even truer now with problems they haven't fixed with the Mk8 still and the end of ICE looming large.

Although, if they were to make it as a mild hybrid, would it then mean it could be sold in some form or other until 2035?, as apposed to 2030 for a solely internal combustion engined car!

[fredgroves]

I don't think they've defined just how many miles a hybrid has to be able to do on just electric power.. But fairly sure there will be a minimum under those new regs...

[Carlosfandango]

I don't think they've defined just how many miles a hybrid has to be able to do on just electric power.. But fairly sure there will be a minimum under those new regs...

Good point, and a mild hybrid simply doesn’t run the car on electric power alone, so probably wouldn't be put in the same bracket as true hybrids, that would also mean it would be an unlikely feature of the 8.5 due to development costs, but who knows what the future holds, the date of the ICE ban seems to be up for debate anyway, if some news reports are to be believed!?

[Dogman12]

Like most things I don’t believe that article is *entirely* accurate. My friend who happens to be a VW salesman has received info direct from a VW dealer convention presentation in Germany that outlined the 8.5 Golfs and GTIs/Rs.
For the Performance Golfs, there was no mention of hybrid tech (GTE notwithstanding).
From memory, the following GTI/Clubsport info was mentioned:
- Buttons BACK on steering wheel
- Bigger screen a lá ID.7 with illuminated sliders and better graphics etc
- Meatier front grille in gloss black
- Slimmer headlights and illuminated VW badge. Sharper rear light detailing
- ‘Monza’ style diamond cut alloys like mk5 GTI
- Metal GTI badge on the door a lá new ID.4/5 GTX
- Seats were the same but ‘options’ are being discussed
- GTI gets more power, CS the same
- Akrapovic as part of CS performance pack

That’s about it from what I can remember. Typical VW facelift stuff really

Do you think MK8 Facelift will be presented in Germany during the conference in a month ?

[BanksyGTI]

Hello Banksy GTI; did you friend happen to the know the expected UK price? would be interested if its not far north of 40K but guess its bound to be.
Then there's always the obligatory 18 month wait of course.......!

Hi, no he didn’t unfortunately… the conference was in March of this year and some spec details were still being ironed out. All different nationalities were present so costing would be quite academic due to different market rates and taxes etc