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Offline Rob_benton

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Re: Servicing Questions
« Reply #30 on: 13 January 2022, 07:04 »
Here’s a thought ……

Once you put the engine flush in, you are supposed to leave the engine to idle for a few (15) minutes to do its magic stuff.
I wonder how many technicians actually let the engine idle to its time scale when they are paid on their selling hours …?
I know my technicians would find it hard. The more work the cram in, the more they get paid.
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Re: Servicing Questions
« Reply #31 on: 13 January 2022, 08:46 »
There’s no way of knowing. However in a multi bay workshop they might be able to achieve that by doing other work on the car ( non engine) or working on another car for enough idle time.
Like everything else a garage does or doesn’t do to your car, the customer hands over a large degree of trust.
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Re: Servicing Questions
« Reply #32 on: 13 January 2022, 09:21 »
Here’s a thought ……

Once you put the engine flush in, you are supposed to leave the engine to idle for a few (15) minutes to do its magic stuff.
I wonder how many technicians actually let the engine idle to its time scale when they are paid on their selling hours …?
I know my technicians would find it hard. The more work the cram in, the more they get paid.
Is the engine up to temperature when they start the flush process? Probably not for the same reason.
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Re: Servicing Questions
« Reply #33 on: 13 January 2022, 10:29 »
Another one to raise - aircon regas

Dealer has tried to get me to cough up for this on the two previous services. Aircon seems to work great, running all year round. Not seeing it as an item on the service schedule - https://www.shopdap.com/blog/post/service-schedule-for-mk7-5-gti-2018-2019.html

What's other peoples thoughts on this?

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Re: Servicing Questions
« Reply #34 on: 13 January 2022, 11:15 »
Another one to raise - aircon regas

Dealer has tried to get me to cough up for this on the two previous services. Aircon seems to work great, running all year round. Not seeing it as an item on the service schedule - https://www.shopdap.com/blog/post/service-schedule-for-mk7-5-gti-2018-2019.html

What's other peoples thoughts on this?

It’s a recommended rather than a required service action a.k.a. a money making up-sell opportunity for the dealer. I’m of the opinion that if it isn’t broke, then don’t fix it.

However……….I read on seatcupra.net forum that if you intend buying the All-In warranty / servicing / breakdown / MOT product, then you might be required to get any o/s service actions completed before your car’s eligible for that product. The forum member over on seatcupra.net had an o/s air con service and had to get it done to meet Seat’s eligibility criteria for All-In. As the Seat and VW All-In products are the same in all but name, presumably VW’s eligibility criteria would be the same as Seat’s.


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Re: Servicing Questions
« Reply #35 on: 13 January 2022, 12:02 »
Another one to raise - aircon regas

Dealer has tried to get me to cough up for this on the two previous services. Aircon seems to work great, running all year round. Not seeing it as an item on the service schedule - https://www.shopdap.com/blog/post/service-schedule-for-mk7-5-gti-2018-2019.html

What's other peoples thoughts on this?

How much is a regas at Volkswagen? Presumably around £120?

Last re-gas I had was ages ago and it was £50 and that was just for the gas. It's not a scam they do periodically need re-gassed, but if it's icy cold I wouldn't bother. Let alone who recommend it gets done in Winter?!
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Re: Servicing Questions
« Reply #36 on: 13 January 2022, 12:09 »
Here’s a thought ……

Once you put the engine flush in, you are supposed to leave the engine to idle for a few (15) minutes to do its magic stuff.
I wonder how many technicians actually let the engine idle to its time scale when they are paid on their selling hours …?
I know my technicians would find it hard. The more work the cram in, the more they get paid.
Is the engine up to temperature when they start the flush process? Probably not for the same reason.

Does anyone have any evidence that an engine flush is improves engine performance or longevity?

Let’s assume they do it properly- engine up to temperature, idling for ? 15 minutes before doing the oil change.  ( and I’d be concerned that if not done properly it may cause more harm than good- by loosening the deposits and leaving them in the system).

I’d be interested to do it if there is proven benefit
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Re: Servicing Questions
« Reply #37 on: 13 January 2022, 13:07 »
Another one to raise - aircon regas

Dealer has tried to get me to cough up for this on the two previous services. Aircon seems to work great, running all year round. Not seeing it as an item on the service schedule - https://www.shopdap.com/blog/post/service-schedule-for-mk7-5-gti-2018-2019.html

What's other peoples thoughts on this?

How much is a regas at Volkswagen? Presumably around £120?

Last re-gas I had was ages ago and it was £50 and that was just for the gas. It's not a scam they do periodically need re-gassed, but if it's icy cold I wouldn't bother. Let alone who recommend it gets done in Winter?!

VW appear to have removed the prices for air con service from their website but from memory, their published price used to be around £134.
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Re: Servicing Questions
« Reply #38 on: 13 January 2022, 14:58 »
Here’s a thought ……

Once you put the engine flush in, you are supposed to leave the engine to idle for a few (15) minutes to do its magic stuff.
I wonder how many technicians actually let the engine idle to its time scale when they are paid on their selling hours …?
I know my technicians would find it hard. The more work the cram in, the more they get paid.
Is the engine up to temperature when they start the flush process? Probably not for the same reason.

Does anyone have any evidence that an engine flush is improves engine performance or longevity?

Let’s assume they do it properly- engine up to temperature, idling for ? 15 minutes before doing the oil change.  ( and I’d be concerned that if not done properly it may cause more harm than good- by loosening the deposits and leaving them in the system).

I’d be interested to do it if there is proven benefit

I think we're getting a bit to complicated now for a simple oil change...but let's continue what about adding a bit of Liqui Moly Cera Tec in to help reduce component wear which does have proven benefit behind it?

I'd assume the engine flush is just like throwing out a cold cup of tea, you empty it but there will still be a few drops in there and the flush is there to get those bits. But if your oil is thick and has metal fragments in it then you already have bigger issues.

So I too would be skeptical of an oil flush, mostly because we've seen old bmw's, merc's and volvos hit 1,000,000 miles and that was with just a simple oil change every 6-10k miles, no flushing, no additives, no octane boosters, not even premium fuel.

Just normal driving and consistent maintenance.

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Re: Servicing Questions
« Reply #39 on: 13 January 2022, 15:41 »
Another one to raise - aircon regas

Dealer has tried to get me to cough up for this on the two previous services. Aircon seems to work great, running all year round. Not seeing it as an item on the service schedule - https://www.shopdap.com/blog/post/service-schedule-for-mk7-5-gti-2018-2019.html

What's other peoples thoughts on this?

How much is a regas at Volkswagen? Presumably around £120?

Last re-gas I had was ages ago and it was £50 and that was just for the gas. It's not a scam they do periodically need re-gassed, but if it's icy cold I wouldn't bother. Let alone who recommend it gets done in Winter?!

You should have Air Con all year round - the gas contains a lubricant that stops seal drying out and helps lubricate the compressor,  preventing leaks and helps reduce condensation.

I’ve had Air Con in cars for about 23 years and never needed a re-gas apart from a manufacturing fault causing a seal to fail.
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