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Re: You don’t fancy an 8R?
« Reply #120 on: 21 February 2022, 13:05 »
Talking of T6 lifestyle vehicles, today is all about the ID. Buzz where the embargo has been lifted on the influencers so they can all let rip on their enthusiasm on the model. Not had time/interest to watch/read any yet but that vehicle falls into the £50k R and RS3 sphere of cost. The next big thing for flippers, parents about town, salary sacrifice and company car allowance people?
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Re: You don’t fancy an 8R?
« Reply #121 on: 21 February 2022, 13:59 »
I have read a few of the Buzz things today and it leaves me a bit underwhelmed.

In fact I'm starting to feel like choosing a BEV is like choosing a new Android phone... lots of different offerings but nothing you can truly say is unique or more attractive.... or at least unless you want to buy one of the exotics.
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Re: You don’t fancy an 8R?
« Reply #122 on: 21 February 2022, 14:57 »
If you’ve got a few million in the bank then one of the real BEV exotics might be a draw but I doubt dodging company car tax is a huge issue to these people who would have most of their banking done via the Virgin Islands! Who knows?

The ID. Buzz will be a smash hit for a few years I have no doubt. Faddy people will be there in droves.
I think it’s a good use of the BEV skateboard type platform personally, far more attractive and useful than the legions of appliance SUV’s currently on sale. Let’s hope the VW tech gremlins don’t make a mess of a potential goldmine for them.
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Re: You don’t fancy an 8R?
« Reply #123 on: 21 February 2022, 23:15 »
I’ve watched a couple of today’s videos with interest- I’d love an EV MPV if it could do what I need it to do- daily duties and touring for a family of 6.

Once again, it’s all about range. Matt Watson reckons just over 200 miles on his test.

Not good enough for me.

And with a 50k price tag, definitely one for the fashionistas.
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Re: You don’t fancy an 8R?
« Reply #124 on: 22 February 2022, 08:16 »
Transporter things are changing. Up until now everything has been van based, but the new Buzz and Multivan are smaller, car based vehicles. Think Sharan. So far they are not being well received by Transporter followers. I see them as being a school run vehicle for Mums that can't manage a proper van, but like the image.

The commercial side is changing soon too. There is a getting together with Ford to build the next Transporter/Transit and Amarok/Ranger. Along with the shortage of new vehicles, at the moment, that's bolstering up prices of current models. So when you baulk at £50k Golf R's, consider dealers that are asking £75k plus for pre-reg T6.1 Sportline Black Edition Kombi's. 
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Re: You don’t fancy an 8R?
« Reply #125 on: 22 February 2022, 08:50 »
Shorter than a Sharan/Alhambra, better turning circle and “ high up” driving position.
Should be ideal for families on the school run.
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Re: You don’t fancy an 8R?
« Reply #126 on: 22 February 2022, 09:29 »
Once again, it’s all about range. Matt Watson reckons just over 200 miles on his test.

Not good enough for me.

I watched Matt's video yesterday with the Skoda... it was interesting but the one thing he didn't point out is that there is a weird thing with EV vs ICE.... on a ICE vehicle, peak effeciency is a constant speed of about 60mph (like he showed) but on an EV this is not the case.

EV's excel at stop start (regenerative braking!) and that's where ICE is at its worst.

Sure his video shows you that loading your family up for a trip to the south of france is going to mean you get nothing like the WLTP range figures, but we knew that would be the case didn't we?

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Re: You don’t fancy an 8R?
« Reply #127 on: 22 February 2022, 09:38 »
The problem for me is that you can’t load up for a trip to south of france. Not without more planning.
Even a return trip to London/Surrey for me- which we often do- would cause anxiety.

Thomas in autogefuhl suggested the throttle has  been mapped for comfort, I don’t know if this will improve the economy?
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Re: You don’t fancy an 8R?
« Reply #128 on: 22 February 2022, 09:46 »
touring for a family of 6.
Once again, it’s all about range. Matt Watson reckons just over 200 miles on his test.
Not good enough
Don't think I ever managed to go 200 miles without at least one family members needing the toilet. :grin:
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Re: You don’t fancy an 8R?
« Reply #129 on: 22 February 2022, 10:13 »
Have one EV question and thats battery replacement? Saw the story of someone who purchased a Mercedes EV and cannot entirely remember reason why, but he needed new battery and it was more than the cost of going out and buying a new car.

Battery replacement would be a concern to me when car is a few years old, as surely that would accelerate decrease in value with any potential buyer knowing there is a big bill not too far away.

Leasing over ownership is only way would consider one

Did look at EV for this company change (going to still keep my TCR to replace wife's Audi) to keep BIK down but just not ready yet, so likely to get a well equipped A1, maybe the competition as one last go around the fossil fuel wheel before likely go to an EV next go around (on lease)
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