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Re: Clubsport order thread
« Reply #710 on: 05 July 2023, 13:06 »



Not Clubby related but I’m replacing my GTI next March and just got the above quote through. As the T Roc still runs on the old software I’m half tempted. Price seems good considering the environment at the mo.

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Re: Clubsport order thread
« Reply #711 on: 05 July 2023, 13:33 »
I agree Ubique.  My wife loves the look of the T-Roc so I can well imagine we'll get one when my Clubby lease is up in a year.    That price for an R on 12k mpa looks good to me.
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Re: Clubsport order thread
« Reply #712 on: 05 July 2023, 16:32 »
I’m half tempted Bill, imagine the look on my local VW dealer (who I have been b!tching at for the last two years) if I turn back up for it’s first service and ask if they can make it “bong” more?

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« Reply #713 on: 05 July 2023, 18:10 »
£518 good value? :shocked:
The world has gone mad.
I guess if your employer lumps a load of money towards it every month it’s slightly palatable.
Even so, if that was the case I’d be looking at the MG4 xpower and taking advantage of the tax benefits.

I do quite like the T-Roc R but it needs the 19” wheels to look right and it runs the same steering wheel as the mk8 Golf which is the part they blame the bongs on.
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Re: Clubsport order thread
« Reply #714 on: 05 July 2023, 19:10 »
It is Mad Ex, but I’ve been getting horrible quotes back on other makes, saying that I’ve just run an insurance quote on the web. 6 years no claims, no points and the t roc would be £80-90/ month! Off to look at that MG…

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Re: Clubsport order thread
« Reply #715 on: 05 July 2023, 19:20 »
It is Mad Ex, but I’ve been getting horrible quotes back on other makes, saying that I’ve just run an insurance quote on the web. 6 years no claims, no points and the t roc would be £80-90/ month! Off to look at that MG…

Insurance prices also seem to be crazy at the moment - so are VW dealer servicing / maintenance prices.
  • A guy over on the Polo forum has recently been quoted a price of £1,148 for a cam belt change on a 1.0 litre Polo!  :shocked:
  • The price for a VW service plan covering the first two services is currently £360 if purchased at point of sale or £480 if bought later. I paid £199 for my service plan just under three years ago.
Looks like I’ll be using my free bus pass quite a lot when I’m eligible for one in a few years time :grin:.
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Re: Clubsport order thread
« Reply #716 on: 05 July 2023, 19:37 »
Just shows the state of play in the market these days I guess and it’s not like you can save a heap of money by running a second hand car as the value of those is daft now too, albeit dropping away a bit.

The insurance rises reflect the fact insurers are quick to write cars off nowadays due to high costs of fixing anything on EV’s, high prices of parts, scarce availability and most likely profiteering in various areas of the industry.
Just last month a colleague of mine sustained some minor damage where a van reversed into his parked car. The car went off for evaluation so they agreed that he dropped his damaged car off at a hire car depot where they’d collect it from and he picked up his courtesy loan car. Fast forward a couple weeks, the insurers deemed the minor damage a cause to write the car off and did he want a full settlement or part settlement and have his car back. He took option two as the car was otherwise fairly sound.
A few days later they phoned to say they didn’t know where the car was. They’d literally lost it somewhere.
To add insult to injury they asked for the loaner hire car back now that they’d agreed settlement.
He told them to bugger off until they’d tracked which bodyshop they’d left his own car at and returned it to him!
They ‘suspected’ it was at a site a hundred miles away, which is odd when the accident happened outside his own house  :rolleyes:

And yes, dealer servicing and service plans are becoming another racket.


The 400+ bhp MG4 at £37k will get an awful lot of attention. A couple colleagues of mine have ‘normal’ versions of it and the quality doesn’t look any worse than a VW ID model. I’ll take a close look myself when the order books open this month.
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Re: Clubsport order thread
« Reply #717 on: 05 July 2023, 22:39 »
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Re: Clubsport order thread
« Reply #718 on: 08 July 2023, 11:19 »
Just shows the state of play in the market these days I guess and it’s not like you can save a heap of money by running a second hand car as the value of those is daft now too, albeit dropping away a bit.

The insurance rises reflect the fact insurers are quick to write cars off nowadays due to high costs of fixing anything on EV’s, high prices of parts, scarce availability and most likely profiteering in various areas of the industry.
Just last month a colleague of mine sustained some minor damage where a van reversed into his parked car. The car went off for evaluation so they agreed that he dropped his damaged car off at a hire car depot where they’d collect it from and he picked up his courtesy loan car. Fast forward a couple weeks, the insurers deemed the minor damage a cause to write the car off and did he want a full settlement or part settlement and have his car back. He took option two as the car was otherwise fairly sound.
A few days later they phoned to say they didn’t know where the car was. They’d literally lost it somewhere.
To add insult to injury they asked for the loaner hire car back now that they’d agreed settlement.
He told them to bugger off until they’d tracked which bodyshop they’d left his own car at and returned it to him!
They ‘suspected’ it was at a site a hundred miles away, which is odd when the accident happened outside his own house  :rolleyes:

And yes, dealer servicing and service plans are becoming another racket.


The 400+ bhp MG4 at £37k will get an awful lot of attention. A couple colleagues of mine have ‘normal’ versions of it and the quality doesn’t look any worse than a VW ID model. I’ll take a close look myself when the order books open this month.

BEV insurance is getting silly - worst for Teslas, with their single piece chassis casting. The slightest damage to the chassis and the car is binned, there is no central cell with replaceable surrounding chassis components, its one big lump.

Might want to take a closer look at that MG4 - they are built quite cheaply - no galvanised body, suspension components very poorly finished, but hidden mainly by poorly fitted aero trays. Value for money, certainly, but you're not buying a VW for Dacia money, you're buying a Dacia for Dacia money. That 7 year warranty is full of exclusions after 3 years too, with pretty much just the motor and battery covered the full 7 years. Not a car built to last 15-20 years. The new hot one sounds mental though. Interior is hideous and seats uncomfortable. Back end looks very weird too.

As easy as BEVs are to drive, they're pretty low on thrills, even if fast in a straight line. As much as the Born is a good car, I prefer my S3 to it by a country mile in every aspect but running costs.

Paid silly money for the "up to 2.0" A3 service pack to go with the S3 too. Bought with the car, it was £540 for first 2 services. I can't imagine walk in prices being much more for 2 oil changes, an air filter change and additional "checks" on the second service to make it a full service. I don't believe it includes brake fluid change on the second service, could be wrong on that score.
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Re: Clubsport order thread
« Reply #719 on: 09 July 2023, 10:14 »
I doubt anyone is under any illusion about the longer term durability of the MG4 bearing in mind the bargain basement pricing, but as a short term business lease/Mobility/PCP it’s hard to ignore.
I’ve had a good look at my colleague’s car and it’s decent enough inside for a sub £30k BEV, it goes very well up to the NSL in sporty mode and actually handles well. Terrifying brakes similar to the ID models remove a bit of the enjoyment of brisk driving but I guess you quickly get used to them.
If I had company car allowance I’d be first in the queue for the Xpower model.

But alas I pay my own way when it comes to transport so I’ll stick with my “legacy marque” petrol hatchback and kid myself about German engineering.
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