Gti Reviews

[fredgroves]

Agree too that in this segment, a BMW or Audi holds no more brand appeal than the VW. Arguably less imo, as the GTI does have a very established "Brand" whereas if you bought that 128ti you'd spend the next 3 years explaining to people what "Ti" is, that its "ti" not "GTI" and no, someone didn't steal the "G" off the boot badge and no, its not a 116d.

TI is  “Turismo Internazionale”

GTI is "Grand Touring Injection"

I guess that settles it one is a Grand more than the other 

[JoeGTI]

 

[Yusee]

Some good / interesting posts there 

I'm a bit disappointed by the lacklustre reviews for the new car. Like Snoopy, I want to love it. My first GTI was the MK5 and that car as we all know was universally praised, it regularly topped the reviews/group tests, so its a bit disappointing that this car isn't getting that same kudos in the press.

However I feel that journalists are lazy for the most part and with the you tubers and influencers, its even worse than ever. They all latch onto "something" about the car and repeat it, like you'd repeat something you heard down in the pub. Oh the touch sensitive buttons on the steering wheel are crap, I know someone said that somewhere, so yeah, in my review I'll say they're crap too.

I know what you mean about wanting to love the car- and reading the reviews are part of that whole process- but I would take some of this stuff with a massive pinch of salt.
The chap in that Car test described steering a 400bhp AWD car on the throttle on a motorway slip road- so presumably at some speed. Either he's one hell of a driver or he's exaggerating- a little!
( I think I read that bit right, but i'll happily be corrected if someone read different)
Most of these journos are trying to make their way in the industry. They have to say the right things.
Read the Clarkson piece. Keep a copy of it.
Then go and buy the mk8.

On the subject of faster and faster cars, I really do struggle to understand the motivation here- for the vast majority of people who will not track their cars.
I understand 2 GRY demonstrators have been written off by customers on test drives. I was intrigued to understand how- I can't imagine someone has come off the road driving one. Apparently one car hit a deer somewhere near Stratford.
Worth reflecting on that- must have hit the animal with some force to write off a 33k car.
You can corner at any speed in this car. Problem is you can't see around the bend- could be a cyclist on your side and a truck coming the other way. Or a deer. And if you doing 80-85 mph, you aren't gonna stop- no matter how good your brakes are.
The whole ownership experience is an exercise in restraint.

[ar899]

"Read the Clarkson piece. Keep a copy of it.
Then go and buy the mk8."

Is subscribing to the Times the only way to read it? I don't have any apples.

[Exonian]

The I in GTI has been debated since the Stone Age. Injection in German is Einspritzung (sp) and Opel were closest with the Astra/Kadett GTE

I actually thought the magazine piece was good entertainment and if anything it demonstrates how vast a span the hot hatch market encompasses.

[fredgroves]

The I in GTI has been debated since the Stone Age. Injection in German is Einspritzung (sp) and Opel were closest with the Astra/Kadett GTE

I was just trying to Einspritz some humour :-P

[fredgroves]

Yusee,

Without sounding like my father, i too wonder just what the point is of having light speed capable cars.

I used to ride superbikes as a younger man and can honestly say that the things I used to do wouldn't last long these days. Too many things that would end you or your licence.

I can't imagine what my time on bikes would have been like riding at ten percent throttle through a 20mph zone over speed bumps. Actually, i can, it would be *#@%!

[Yusee]

It's utterly pointless. Sorry to bang on about the GRY but driving that thing has made me even more aware of this issue.
My brother owns a delta integrale which I have driven and been driven in- and he can drive well- he's spent hours on track and used to instruct.
I can tell you that integrale is a shopping trolley compared to this Yaris. Honestly.
That's how far cars have come in 20 odd years. And there has to come a point at which the customers say- actually we don't want any more speed- it is not only pointless but actually reduces the driving enjoyment for a car that is only going to be used on a public road.

I think also the motoring press are doing the buying public a massive disservice by promoting these cars in the way they are- I haven't heard a single journo say that, actually, for road use, the GRY is a very ordinary ownership prospect- drab, cramped interior, poor ergonomics, firm ride and not much fun to drive because you'll be driving at half throttle everywhere with turbo lag and no steering feel.

@ar899, can't help you with the original article but here's a summary-

https://www.driving.co.uk/news/jeremy-clarkson-didnt-want-review-vw-tiguan-hes-reviewed-golf-gti/

[fredgroves]

I remember a mate of mine who had an mitsubishi evo (I forget which one) but it was an utter monster and capable of incredible speed round twisty lanes. Great on a rally stage, not great when he discovered a tractor round a blind bend and even the brakes on that weren't capable of stopping him before he ended up almost with a plough under his chin. Bit of a mess.

[jv]

This thread is great, one minute it's that there's been no progress, the mk8 isn't powerful enough, next we're all going to die in a terrible, pointless Toyota, that's too fast.

Oi aye, when I were a lad we made do with 4 gears and to do 60 required a long down hill and a favourable wind direction.