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Offline Yusee

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Re: Gti Reviews
« Reply #190 on: 29 December 2020, 22:47 »
I only trust a journo who puts his money where his mouth is- easy to say “ this is the one to buy” when you don’t have to live with it.
The hot hatch tests always ask the question “ which is the most fun” rather than the question “ which is best suited for its intended use”.
I’ve started reading what car as I’ve got older.😂 it’s the only one that’s useful
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Re: Gti Reviews
« Reply #191 on: 29 December 2020, 23:06 »
I remember one group test where they said that on the way home they all argued about who took the gti... Which probably says everything... Unless you want to win a pub based willy waving competition.
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Re: Gti Reviews
« Reply #192 on: 29 December 2020, 23:16 »
I ignore most reviews tbh as they’re a nonsense. I’m much more interested in the views of people on here. Living with a car is different to putting one round a track or other such nonsense.
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Re: Gti Reviews
« Reply #193 on: 31 December 2020, 23:47 »
Not really a review but mk5 vs mk8 from TG...

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/best-2020/has-new-vw-golf-gti-run-out-ideas

Entirely missing the point that you couldn't make a mk5 in 2020 and that without demonstrating progress vw wouldn't sell cars at all. Whether journos like to imagine the past was better (nostalgia ain't what it used to be eh?) it doesn't seem to have prevented the golf consistently selling more units than any other car.

I read the other day that the id3 was the biggest electric car sales figure in 2020 but that it sold only 25% of the biggest selling car... The golf.
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Re: Gti Reviews
« Reply #194 on: 01 January 2021, 00:47 »
Not really a review but mk5 vs mk8 from TG...

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/best-2020/has-new-vw-golf-gti-run-out-ideas

Entirely missing the point that you couldn't make a mk5 in 2020 and that without demonstrating progress vw wouldn't sell cars at all. Whether journos like to imagine the past was better (nostalgia ain't what it used to be eh?) it doesn't seem to have prevented the golf consistently selling more units than any other car.

I read the other day that the id3 was the biggest electric car sales figure in 2020 but that it sold only 25% of the biggest selling car... The golf.

I think the title should read " have motoring journalists run out of ideas". It isn't really clear what he's trying to argue.
It is true that older cars offer something than newer cars don;t- but that doesn't seem to be what he's saying. He's saying the mk5 is better than the mk8- and that simply isn't true.
If cars didn't get better- as you say- they wouldn't sell.
You could also save a sh1t load in research and development- because they're obviously doing nothing useful!
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Re: Gti Reviews
« Reply #195 on: 01 January 2021, 10:02 »
There was a Mk5 vs Mk8 comparison uploaded to YouTube a few days ago. I can't remember if anyone already posted it, but if not here it is

https://youtu.be/RKQ8mkQAa3c

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Re: Gti Reviews
« Reply #196 on: 01 January 2021, 10:25 »
And here's the mega mega hot hatch group test

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/comparison/2020/hot-hatch-megatest/

If you look carefully they do mention the gti.

There are some other interesting angles in that article that contradict what everyone else says...the S3 is apparently great for example.

That test is a bit bizarre, presumably it's down to the exact mix of cars they could test at a given time. Why test the m135i against things like the gti and the focus for example.
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Re: Gti Reviews
« Reply #197 on: 01 January 2021, 12:07 »
I’m gonna stick my neck out a bit here, and share this one. I like this chap- he has extensive experience of mqb cars and he makes sensible comments. Interestingly he feels the driving dynamics are a step up. I also like his rather pragmatic take on the tech!-

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GuPPIu8Kfmc
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Re: Gti Reviews
« Reply #198 on: 01 January 2021, 12:25 »
I’m gonna stick my neck out a bit here, and share this one. I like this chap- he has extensive experience of mqb cars and he makes sensible comments. Interestingly he feels the driving dynamics are a step up. I also like his rather pragmatic take on the tech!-

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GuPPIu8Kfmc

That sounds like the opinion of someone who knows Golfs and isn't trying to generate clicks by being angry.

I think he sums up what I thought about it.
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Re: Gti Reviews
« Reply #199 on: 01 January 2021, 12:38 »
Some good reading and viewing content there  :smiley:

That Car mag group thrash was a really good read.
Fairly predictable as they always will be but enjoyable.
The Golf GTI positioned exactly where we’d expect, a worthy mention but never going to be near the honours. I don’t think the Clubsport would have fared better, the R might have got closer to the podium and I can see it being the next press darling as an everyday useable GRY that seats more than 2 adults and isn’t as hardcore. The R brand will be the one to carry performance VWs forward so it’s where we expect the best products and investment to be. The poor ICE GTI will soon be a relic. 

As for the mk5 versus mk8 GTI, well they’re basically the same recipe in so many ways. World events have made for slim pickings as far as car journos go. No swanky racetrack launches this year despite some big hitters being released to market.

I’m not much of a regular YouTube watched but the TR Hamza vid was on point and refreshingly ‘normal’ in a world of click bait.
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