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Re: Clubsport 40 value
« Reply #30 on: 27 May 2020, 11:49 »
I had an R32 back in the day. Based on engine size it was an eye watering €1809 annual tax. I remember paying €1000 every six months to split it. Makes owning one of these again a non runner until it’s a classic. Ye don’t have it as bad as ye think over there. ( car wise anyway !)
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Re: Clubsport 40 value
« Reply #31 on: 27 May 2020, 12:14 »
Based on those sort of numbers I would definitely have to agree with you :whistle:
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Re: Clubsport 40 value
« Reply #32 on: 27 May 2020, 13:25 »

Conversely I had a mad moment and part exchanged mine for a TCR last October

How does it compare?

I would search Exonian’s previous posts, he’s written several claptrap comparison reviews but his view may be different to yours. Based on the specification you want my advice is go for the TCR; for only a few thousand more you’ll get a more recent car, perhaps close to 3 years newer, more equipment some of which was not standard or even available on the ED40. All the benefits of the Facelift model, perhaps even Akrapovic exhaust.

If you want a car to mollycoddle, pamper and you only do a few miles buy the ED40. If you do average mileage and your car will be a workhorse buy a TCR. There’s plenty of choice at the moment. Plus you’ll get a manufacturers warranty.

Each to their own.

You’ve summed up my exact thoughts there Paul70


Although a CS40 makes a fantastic daily driver being as user friendly as any other Golf (excluding CSS which has a slight cabin disadvantage/advantage) coupled with a feeling of “this car is a bit special even though it’s just another Golf underneath it all” due to its well executed details.
In my first post in what turned into a rather lengthy thread back in 2017 I said the Clubsport has an air of sense of occasion about it, and in the two years and six months I owned it that opinion didn’t diminish one iota.
I bought the CS because I had another utilitarian car for work and trips to the dump which made every trip out in the Ed40 feel a bit of an event. Silly as that sounds as at the end of the day it is just another Golf, but it has something about it that other Golfs just don’t possess.
For a start, to a semi-educated eye, the CS & CSS look unique from all angles and there’s that smug knowledge that the bumper and wing are genuine aero items which have car anorak kudos (due to the ‘Ring record) but maybe don’t really have a massive effect on the local ring road...

If you want bucket seats then prepare to dig deep as these cars command a premium and I doubt all of them have been sympathetically driven, although most will be cherished cars as they only really appealed to a small band of enthusiasts.


Indeed for a few grand more you can get a TCR with around 2 years warranty on it and is just as rare as a Clubsport Ed40.

The TCR is fully loaded with just about everything if you secure one with a 19” wheel package.
As SR says, beware the original list price! My advice would be to either get one of the first released when the list price was a bit lower and didn’t have the fancy exhaust (the non Akra exhaust still has a unique sound and provides quite a rasp under load or on the overrun but is fairly quiet when cruising), or get one of the last that has 18” wheels and no DCC as these still ride fine and alloys can be changed at any time (although the Belvederes look beautiful in their own right and suit the TCR better than the Ed40 IMO).
The TCR still has the sense of occasion feeling but I don’t think it’ll ever be as sought after as a CS40 which has buckets.

I marginally prefer the TCR to the Ed40, most enthusiasts would say the opposite I reckon, and the enthusiast market is a fickle thing.


   

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Re: Clubsport 40 value
« Reply #33 on: 27 May 2020, 16:15 »
Thanks for taking the time to post, that was an insightful summary! It's the ED40 bucket seats tho that do it for me, and on the flip side, the TCR seats very much don't do it for me, perhaps they are nicer in real life...

As I wait for more ED40s to come on the market I can't help but look at RS3's!! Man, that's a minefield, such a variation in price.


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Re: Clubsport 40 value
« Reply #34 on: 27 May 2020, 16:20 »
Fit your own bucket seats to a TCR?

VW didn't make those, someone else did. I am sure someone else more knowledgable than me will be along to tell you exactly who made them.

Might even be able to buy them as VW spares if you are insistant on having OEM part numbers on everything.

As I said earlier, its mental to spunk 30k on a 3 year old car thats only 30k because it has some collectors value and then use it as a daily driver.

I could be wrong, but all of the "special editions" are run out model parts bin specials. Everyone does it to try and make a few new sales to bridge the gap to the next new model most customers are waiting for.
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Re: Clubsport 40 value
« Reply #35 on: 27 May 2020, 16:24 »
At least an RS3 has something to justify the price tag.
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Re: Clubsport 40 value
« Reply #36 on: 27 May 2020, 16:39 »

I would search Exonian’s previous posts, he’s written several claptrap comparison reviews

You’ve summed up my exact thoughts there Paul70
 


Wonder how many people noticed your edit Exonian? I would never be so rude!
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Re: Clubsport 40 value
« Reply #37 on: 27 May 2020, 16:51 »
Fit your own bucket seats to a TCR?

VW didn't make those, someone else did. I am sure someone else more knowledgable than me will be along to tell you exactly who made them.

Might even be able to buy them as VW spares if you are insistant on having OEM part numbers on everything.

If it’s the ED40 GTI Clubsport bucket seats, I don’t know who made them, but they were eye-wateringly expensive :shocked:.

Check out reply #577 in this post - towards the bottom of the page at the link below.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=284021.577
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Re: Clubsport 40 value
« Reply #38 on: 27 May 2020, 17:08 »
Fit your own bucket seats to a TCR?

VW didn't make those, someone else did. I am sure someone else more knowledgable than me will be along to tell you exactly who made them.

Might even be able to buy them as VW spares if you are insistant on having OEM part numbers on everything.

If it’s the ED40 GTI Clubsport bucket seats, I don’t know who made them, but they were eye-wateringly expensive :shocked:.

Check out reply #577 in this post - towards the bottom of the page at the link below.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=284021.577

TWELVE AND A HALF GRAND!!???

Just the thought of that has this Yorkshireman having a seizure in his wallet.

Mrs Groves would be told to go forth and multiply if she wanted to spend that much on a sofa, let alone two seats in a Golf!
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Re: Clubsport 40 value
« Reply #39 on: 27 May 2020, 17:17 »
I understand the clubsport seats are made by Recaro, as are many sports seats in German cars.

They are a nice thing to have, but are definitely designed with the larger German businessman in mind , rather than the "race" Recaro buckets I have in a Porsche CS.

245PS, as you are looking for a DSG car, I would seriously consider an RS3, for the engine alone!