Question please

[dubber36]

I had a look on a Nissan Juke form to see if there was any conversations about front fog lights. It seems that the headlight switch is confusing. It's on the indicator stalk. You twist the outer section for Auto-Side-Dipped beam, inboard of that is fog light switch which you also twist. You can have the fog lights on in Auto, so once the fogs are turned on, they don't automatically turn off when the headlights are turned off.

Equally it's down to driver stupidity. I was just getting out of my van in a car park when a probably 60 something year old woman driving a Juke pulled in with all lights blazing. I politely asked her if she knew she had her front fog lights. "They are my automatic daytime head lights" came the reply, and here's the best bit, "I always turn then on so that people won't run into me."

[monkeyhanger]

You can blame lack of police presence on the road for that kind of thing going on unchallenged.

Can't be as bad as some of the aftermarket H7.LED bulbs though. To avoid canbus errors, there are many putting out 60-80W, amounting to 30000 lumens (legal limit at 13.2v is around 1650 lumens).

Being behind someone with those on is horrendous - again, no Police presence on the roads to collar anyone and re-educate/fine them.

[SRGTD]

Not fog light related so apologies for going off topic, but I was behind an Audi A7 at traffic lights after dark recently. I’m assuming it was DSG as the driver was sitting with their foot on the brake pedal and the intensity of the lights was almost at retina-burning levels. It was so painful, I ended up covering my eyes with my hands, allowing just enough light through my fingers to see when the traffic started moving again. I’m just glad the driver didn’t have the fog lights on as well!

This YouTube video shows the rear lights without the brake lights activated - pretty bright and much worse when the brake lights are illuminated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAv7f-ptA74&app=desktop

[hog_hedge]

Not fog light related so apologies for going off topic, but I was behind an Audi A7 at traffic lights after dark recently. I’m assuming it was DSG as the driver was sitting with their foot on the brake pedal and the intensity of the lights was almost at retina-burning levels. It was so painful, I ended up covering my eyes with my hands, allowing just enough light through my fingers to see when the traffic started moving again. I’m just glad the driver didn’t have the fog lights on as well!

This YouTube video shows the rear lights without the brake lights activated - pretty bright and much worse when the brake lights are illuminated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAv7f-ptA74&app=desktop

FYI the Auto Hold function on the electronic handbrake uses the brakes and activated the brake lights so it was probably that. It's only when the e brake comes on that the brake lights go off.

[Talk-torque]

Not fog light related so apologies for going off topic, but I was behind an Audi A7 at traffic lights after dark recently. I’m assuming it was DSG as the driver was sitting with their foot on the brake pedal and the intensity of the lights was almost at retina-burning levels. It was so painful, I ended up covering my eyes with my hands, allowing just enough light through my fingers to see when the traffic started moving again. I’m just glad the driver didn’t have the fog lights on as well!

This YouTube video shows the rear lights without the brake lights activated - pretty bright and much worse when the brake lights are illuminated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAv7f-ptA74&app=desktop

FYI the Auto Hold function on the electronic handbrake uses the brakes and activated the brake lights so it was probably that. It's only when the e brake comes on that the brake lights go off.

Yes - and given the clever things that our cars can do, you wouldn’t think it beyond the wit of man for the car to know when another is stationary behind it and dim, or turn off, the brake lights. If something is automatic, people tend to just let it look after itself.

[Sootchucker]

If I know I'm going to be held at traffic lights for more than a few seconds, I always flick the handbrake on from the switch (green handbrake symbol on the dash turns red), which immediately turns the taillights off, saving the retina's of the people behind me.

[Mark V GTD]

Very courteous :-)

[hog_hedge]

Not fog light related so apologies for going off topic, but I was behind an Audi A7 at traffic lights after dark recently. I’m assuming it was DSG as the driver was sitting with their foot on the brake pedal and the intensity of the lights was almost at retina-burning levels. It was so painful, I ended up covering my eyes with my hands, allowing just enough light through my fingers to see when the traffic started moving again. I’m just glad the driver didn’t have the fog lights on as well!

This YouTube video shows the rear lights without the brake lights activated - pretty bright and much worse when the brake lights are illuminated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAv7f-ptA74&app=desktop

FYI the Auto Hold function on the electronic handbrake uses the brakes and activated the brake lights so it was probably that. It's only when the e brake comes on that the brake lights go off.

Yes - and given the clever things that our cars can do, you wouldn’t think it beyond the wit of man for the car to know when another is stationary behind it and dim, or turn off, the brake lights. If something is automatic, people tend to just let it look after itself.

Nah... let their eyes burn