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Re: Revisiting "which hot hatch March 2020"
« Reply #30 on: 07 March 2020, 11:53 »
I am seeing about 4k off of list on the I30N Performance via CarWow - assuming that I want one in precisely my spec (aka "colour") and on PCP.

So they run at about 25k.

I've read and re-read the spec, the only things you don't get and can't have are ACC and automatic transmission.
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Re: Revisiting "which hot hatch March 2020"
« Reply #31 on: 07 March 2020, 12:00 »
I30N Perf could be had for just over 19k new at the end of the year - makes a hell of a difference to those comparisons. Half the price of a TCR makes you really need to obsess about perceived plastic quality :nerd:
you'll be lucky to find any Hyundai dealer willing to sell you one at around 19k. Coupled with crap finance rates and low value at 3 years the monthly figures just aren't worth it.

I did though.
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Using the linked fleet site, if it's worth 10k after 3 years from 19k, it rather laughs in the face of the 37k to 12k TCR drop.
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Re: Revisiting "which hot hatch March 2020"
« Reply #32 on: 07 March 2020, 12:03 »
I30N Perf could be had for just over 19k new at the end of the year - makes a hell of a difference to those comparisons. Half the price of a TCR makes you really need to obsess about perceived plastic quality :nerd:
you'll be lucky to find any Hyundai dealer willing to sell you one at around 19k. Coupled with crap finance rates and low value at 3 years the monthly figures just aren't worth it.

I'd be impressed to see that £29k car (we are talking the performance i30N and not the £26k standard i30N aren't we?).

If that kind of saving can be had, even if it's only worth £10k at 3 or 4 years old, that saving has covered half the depreciation. Add that to the fact you'd only be financing on a £19k car, you'd still be quid in vs 4.9% on a £33-36k (after discount) high end Golf. You save even more if you need to finance and get a cheap bank loan instead.

I'd seriously consider a £9k loss over a £20k loss for a same sector car that looks to be as capable, but a bit cheaper on the interior.

I've no doubt the TCR will be a more satisfying car to own, it's just a pity they jacked the price right up to cover the Akropovich exhaust that almost no-one would've specced as a £3k option. Luckily 0% finance takes the sting out of that decision by VW.

Hopefully the interior of the i30N is better than the old standard. My mate had a yellow Hyundai Coupe years ago, I dubbed it the "Aldi TT", which annoyed him no end when it caught on with our other mates.  :grin:



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Re: Revisiting "which hot hatch March 2020"
« Reply #33 on: 07 March 2020, 12:07 »
I30N Perf could be had for just over 19k new at the end of the year - makes a hell of a difference to those comparisons. Half the price of a TCR makes you really need to obsess about perceived plastic quality :nerd:
you'll be lucky to find any Hyundai dealer willing to sell you one at around 19k. Coupled with crap finance rates and low value at 3 years the monthly figures just aren't worth it.

I did though.
Other ways of buying are available.
Using the linked fleet site, if it's worth 10k after 3 years from 19k, it rather laughs in the face of the 37k to 12k TCR drop.

You just beat me to it on the depreciation front.

I'd seriously consider one at £19k. Manual (yes!), 5 year warranty and 275ps. Are there still ways of getting them for that kind of price? If so, please elaborate.
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Re: Revisiting "which hot hatch March 2020"
« Reply #34 on: 07 March 2020, 12:25 »
There was some Hyundai UK incentive to get cars sold by 31st December, I had started getting quotes around 23k and the closer it got to the date the price was falling. My local dealer was at 25k and wouldn't move at all. Then one over in Essex dipped under 20k. I was trying to find a red car, they only had grey. With just a couple of days to go it was about 19.3k. I had no chance of getting there as working and did the obvious thing of buying another f***ing VW  :laugh:

There were lots around 22k and yes the Performance Pack version. The fastback was also at that price. This was all through carwow.
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Re: Revisiting "which hot hatch March 2020"
« Reply #35 on: 07 March 2020, 12:39 »
There was some Hyundai UK incentive to get cars sold by 31st December, I had started getting quotes around 23k and the closer it got to the date the price was falling. My local dealer was at 25k and wouldn't move at all. Then one over in Essex dipped under 20k. I was trying to find a red car, they only had grey. With just a couple of days to go it was about 19.3k. I had no chance of getting there as working and did the obvious thing of buying another f***ing VW  :laugh:

There were lots around 22k and yes the Performance Pack version. The fastback was also at that price. This was all through carwow.

Was there any particular reason for the Hyundai incentive?

Maybe a national end of year event? Maybe an incoming facelift? Might get myself a drive of one in the not too distant future and if it's worthy, I might just bite next time such an offer is on.

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Re: Revisiting "which hot hatch March 2020"
« Reply #36 on: 07 March 2020, 12:44 »
Would imagine the facelift was exactly it. There weren't any pics/details floating around at the time but it was known to be happening.

I'd definitely consider one again. Or a Yaris GR4  :evil:
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Re: Revisiting "which hot hatch March 2020"
« Reply #37 on: 07 March 2020, 12:45 »
Yep, jv is right as i saw these as well. They were stock cars only, but looking back they were an absolute bargain. Performance versions, either hatchback or fastback for about £22k before haggling. I saw them before Christmas, so wouldn't surprise me if they'd dropped further closer to month end.

Hasn't a facelift just been unveiled recently?
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Re: Revisiting "which hot hatch March 2020"
« Reply #38 on: 07 March 2020, 12:52 »
Yaris GR4 is silly money for what it is (unless another huge discount is achievable).

Just looked at the Hyundai website. 37 month GFV is £12477 - not a kick in the arse off TCR values. Golf interior looks nicer for sure, but £10k nicer (depreciation, not list)? Exterior looks like an Audi/Volvo amalgamation, not too shabby.
There's £2000 via deposit contribution and test drive voucher, so eating into dealership margin at a big dealership with big volume discounts, there should be scope for at least a £5k total discount right now - Carwow indications are that dealerships are nowhere near that figure. 4.9% APR is competitive.

Serious contender at £20-£22k after discount (if you can get that low) for that car to lose £8-10k over 3 years.
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Re: Revisiting "which hot hatch March 2020"
« Reply #39 on: 07 March 2020, 14:09 »
The big Hyundai event a few months ago only applied if you had previously bought one or were referred by a family member. It's all well and good getting quotes from carwow for cheap but it's more difficult getting dealers to get anywhere that price. Two local dealers near me just point blankly refused to budge from the list price even when I showed them carwow prices. Just got the usual patter of don't know how they can sell them at that price. They aren't a bad car and as MH says the 5 year warranty is piece of mind too. They also give you a track warranty which none of the manufacturers in the same segment do. I would have bought one but the horrendous fuel economy is really off putting for something that's no quicker than a mk7 pp. i30N facelift has DCT coming and updated interiors.
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