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Pistonheads R vs TCR...
« on: 01 January 2020, 14:40 »
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/general/volkswagen-golf-r-vs-golf-gti-tcr/41568

Fair assessment and can’t argue with the author’s opinion
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Re: Pistonheads R vs TCR...
« Reply #1 on: 01 January 2020, 15:13 »
So really just personal preference as there doesn't seem much in it. I've not driven either mind.
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Re: Pistonheads R vs TCR...
« Reply #2 on: 01 January 2020, 15:21 »
Very much personal opinion. I disagree with a few points but can’t argue with the overall summary.
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Re: Pistonheads R vs TCR...
« Reply #3 on: 02 January 2020, 11:34 »
Agreed, not much to contest in the summary really aside from the getaway traction which think the reviewers must have been more compromised for being on the CUP 2 Tyres and where on the P Zero there has been pretty much no compromise from driving the R last winter to driving the TCR this winter (Albeit a mild one so far)

Mat on the VWROC forum switched the CUP 2's out for P Zero and states the experiences was transformed, stating the CUP 2 were likely amazing in the summer but more a liability in the winter.

Having put 2500 miles on the TCR and at one with it now, its bringing as equal smiles as the R achieved, with maybe a just a smidge of extra due to the styling tweaks and relative exclusivity. Its a joy to drive, truly. 
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Re: Pistonheads R vs TCR...
« Reply #4 on: 02 January 2020, 19:47 »
The Cup2’s will definitely need a fair bit of heat in them and bone dry roads to be anywhere near their best (a bit like Bridgestones  :laugh: ) and I too find the P Zeros very good for traction, even compared against the PS4S I had on the Clubsport the Pirelli’s are not bad.
I too have done around 2k miles quite quickly in the TCR versus doing about 2k a year in the CS ED40.
It’s been a while now since I had my R so can’t compare directly but the TCR compares very well with it in all areas and is more entertaining in others as a daily road car.
My TCR is very anonymous in white minus any decals and it certainly surprised a mk7 GTI the other day (though I doubt it would have much, if any, legs against a 7.5PP DSG).

I expect many here will have seen this Carwow comparison of a pre and post WLTP RS3 which is interesting as there has been much debate and wondering how WLTP effects the EA888 too.

https://youtu.be/pACT2SUBI_c

The rolling road tests are really interesting as they show how the mapping has been done to lean off the mid-range but compensated for by boosting the low and top end. That would explain something I saw in one of the TCR press releases boasting about improved torque characteristics as no doubt the EA888 WLTP factory mapping will follow a similar path to the 5 pot RS3 motor’s fuelling and boost mapping.

The TCR exhaust noise certainly has presence too as my son said he could hear me coming several streets away when I picked him up the other day
“That’s one noisy car”

The R is definitely the sophisticated all rounder but the TCR has a charm of its own.
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